OIL FILTER FAILURE

computer-rooter · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: OIL FILTER FAILURE

Greetings all! I haven't posted in a while, but I thought this was worthwhile to bring to everyone's attention. I'm running a Honda 90 on my C-Dory. Last month I was putting along when my oil alarm went off. After a little investigation, I discovered oil exiting somewhere under pressure. The engine was too fouled and dripping with the stuff to determine the source (it was a nasty, rainy day), but it was flowing thick and fast enouigh that I knew it was time to drop the kicker and troll for the beach.

Now, a month later, I just got back from troubleshooting the problem. It seems that the NAPA GOLD 1334 oil filter parted company with it's own base, at the crimp where the bottom meets the cap. The seam split for about an inch. This unit had about 20 hours or less on it. The guys at the NAPA store were good about exchanging it, and wanted to keep the carcass to send along to to the mfgr.

So I'm interested in whether or not this has happened to others, and how you all feel about NAPA filters in general. Are they suitable for marine applications?

SEA3PO · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject:

Rooter....same thing happens on Honda cars.... They have pretty high pressure at the filter...we had several filter failures at the shop I worked at and as a result only used Honda filters after that....for the small difference in price I would stick with Honda filters...

Joel
SEA3PO

ppriest · Guest

Although I'm fairly certain that this will instigate a sizable response from users who will rail at the hazards of using distributor-branded components originating Lord-knows where, probably the best lesson is the reminder that it's still worth the effort to pop the hood and check around the engine before every launching. Did you see early evidence of impending failure?

Paul Priest
Sequim

dogon dory · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject: Re: OIL FILTER FAILURE

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computer-rooter · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: OIL FILTER FAILURE

computer-rooter · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject:

ppriest · Guest

That prompts another question - when you turn off the Honda 90 does the oil drain down low enough to permit you to change a filter without losing more than just the oil in the filter?

Paul Priest
Sequim

computer-rooter · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject:

The dipstick is below filter level and of course the high mark is a ways down the stick, so I assume the oil level is below the filter. I generally drain the oil before pulling the filter though, so I can't say for sure.

Kent Richmond · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject: Honda oil filters

I've been changing my own oil in my Honda automobiles for years and have used mostly Fram filters. Never had a problem with one yet. You always need to make sure that the rubber gasket comes off with the old filter, or you could have bad problems.

tsturm · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: OIL FILTER FAILURE

Bill Uffelman · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject:

I had a Honda Accord blow the filter shortly after a Honda dealer oil change so it can happen -- name brand or not. Pain in the rear for sure.

Also had helicopter oil and hydraulic systems bleed to death after service too -- of course components were built by lowest bidders 8>))

Bill Uffelman
Las Vegas NV

SEA3PO · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject:

The failure was a ruptured case, not the seal that ruptured on the Honda cars.... we knew it would cause a law suit if a customer had a failure and lost an engine...... so we decided on factory parts especially on import cars.... I agree, Napa is excellent quality, as is Fram and Wix...
But for my Yamaha's I will buy Yamaha filters...

Joel
SEA3PO

thataway · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject:

I do buy the engine manufactuer's filters (especially when under warantee)--so that if there is a failure, I can at least show that I had the "proper" filter--even though the after market might be identical....

T.R. Bauer · Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: Filters are Filters

I used to work in the lubrication industry a few years ago as I ran a lube shop. In one of the trainings that I went to the Pennzoil presenter stated that there are only two or three oil filter producers in the US and that they for the most part, are all the same. They just paint them differently and put a sticker on them to make them look different. I was actually pretty shocked and even a little devastated. Buy whatever you want mind you, but you are not necessarily getting a superior product by spending more money for the one that says Honda on it.

journey on · Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject:

T.R. Bauer is right. For instance Pennzol is a refinery, right? I now look at the label to see where it's made. I know USA isn't perfect, but if it says Mexico, Canada, or Aisa, I go looking for another one. And I've never heard or experienced a blown oil filter. I guess luck still beats skill. On the sailboat diesel, I could only get Fram from Israel. The Universal distributor just painted over the Fram filter.

Boris