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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive got a nice Johnson 4hp 2 stroke outboard that I will sell for $200...runs good...
Don't feel bad... if the only thing ruined was a motor...that's nothing...should not ruin yer day...

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best advise is as above, get it running right away. Run the motor long enough to completely heat it up to drive out any moisture.

But if an outboard goes under in salt or fresh water and you can't get to it right away, submerge the powerhead (turn the motor upside down) in fresh water. A cooler would work. Keep it submerged until you or a mechanic can work on it.

It's not the water so much that causes the rust, but the wet steel inside the motor rusts when exposed to air.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the motor was not running, there is a pretty good chance of getting it going again. But in salt water, you definately want to wrinse (or better submerge) in fresh water. Also take the magneto/ and any coils etc off and dry them in an oven at low temp. You want to get all of the salt out first. I have also had engines go in the water, or in one case a member of my family put the engine in the cabin,without draining all of the water from its passages. I like to pull the plugs, and fill the cylinder with a mixture of oil and diesel. Run this thru several times to be sure that all of the water is out. If it is a 4 stroke, drain all of the crank case water and oil, go thru several changes of oil and diesel (or kerosene) and turn the engine by hand or with the starter (which had to be washed and baked)--then after at least 3 changes and turning the engine over without compresion, fire it up, with its regular oil. Run for an hour and change the oil agina.

But, in an engine which is running when it goes under--there is a chance that there was substantial damage done to the engine as it was submerged--such as a bent crank shaft. Water sucked into a piston under pressure, will damage the engine.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got back from Home Depot after begging Sue for a microwave...with my $39.95 clenched in my sweaty little grips... RATS !!! What they had was the Magic Chief .7 cu ft..model but it took 800 watts and cost $49.95..... What goes ?? I didn't get the model number... I will have to go back...darn !

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff,
Don't feel too bad about flipping the dink---- we named ours the "little flipper"
The engine was running when it flipped.
When we got home I removed the cowling and rinsed the whole thing off with the water hose
I took the plug out, drained all of the fuel and oil, removed the carb and cleaned her out. I rinsed the cylinder out with alcohal and sprayed a generous amount of WD40 in the cylinder as I pull the cord to coat it while cranking.
I took the carb apart and rinsed everything in alcohal and blew all of the ports out with compressed air.
When I put it back together with new plug, oil and fuel it started right up--- that was 4 years ago and it is still working.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hwy Jeff....If you want...bring it to me and I will clean it up for you and see if I can get it running again......no charge...just something to do...

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went back to Home Depot and checked...the manual said the power consumption was 1000 watts.... it did say it had an output of 800 watts...and was $49.95..

Still to much draw for my Yamaha 1000 generator..

Guess that means no popcorn !

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SEA3PO wrote:
I went back to Home Depot and checked...the manual said the power consumption was 1000 watts.... it did say it had an output of 800 watts...and was $49.95..

Still to much draw for my Yamaha 1000 generator..

Guess that means no popcorn !

Joel
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I'd check another Home Depot. Our HD has a $49 model and a $39 model that look nearly identical but the $39 is lower watt. I think it is 700 watt? They only had one.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to make popcorn--- you need a 2000w.
A microwave small enough to operate from a 1000w would take way to long to pop the corn. IMHO Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also checked the Home Depot today--and the smallest Magic Chef (or any) Microwave that they had was 800 watts output--that will not run on a EU1000i ($49.95).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys blow me away with your microwaves, generators and inverters...I make popcorn on nearly every trip, it's called a deep pan, a little canola oil, butter and popcorn on an ALCOHOL STOVE! Wink Geeeez
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Roger,

Yeah, I don't feel too bad actually, thanks. Was just trying to share a funny story (after the fact). Will be buying Joels outboard and seeing if he can fix the old one.
I was out on the water for days and did not have the tools necessary to do all the fixes suggested, though they are all wise ideas.

Shoot, I just stopped coming in for hard landings on the docks finally!

Are you going to the Fred Hall show next week?

Jeff
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dora~Jean wrote:
You guys blow me away with your microwaves, generators and inverters...I make popcorn on nearly every trip, it's called a deep pan, a little canola oil, butter and popcorn on an ALCOHOL STOVE! Wink Geeeez


And, if you run out of wine/beer, you can always drink the fuel! Smile

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I know what Charlie posted was in gest--but please do not drink the alcohol; it is denatured. Denatured means that a toxic substance (often another alcohol) is added. It is difficult to distill the ethanol (drinkable alcohol), from the toxic substance.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captains Cat wrote:
you can always drink the fuel! Smile
Charlie


Don't take Charlie seriously, he's just trying to get a good deal on somebody's boat..... Wink

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