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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:13 pm    Post subject: Hull # Reply with quote

How do you guys/gals know what number in production that your Dory was built? I just got my 1984, and have no idea what number means what?? LOL
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
I'm 99% sure on this, but much more experience is out there.

If your Hull number was

CD025152G506
or
CD 025 152 G 506

It would be...

CD - a C-Dory
025 -25' Cruiser
152- I think this is the production number you're looking for
A-Jan
B-Feb
C-Mar
D-Apr
E-May
F-June
G-July
etc
5
in this case 2005
06- a 2006 model (they make the switch around July)

So you can tell the size, number, month and year made, and year model it represents with one glance.

This was a 25' Cruiser, number 152 built July 2005 with the 2006 model year options.

Hope this helps.

Fair winds...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I understand it from my hull # MFN (builders code) 18 (18') 012 (#12 of the 18s) mine is also an 84 so your #should be similar (MFN22*** then the date code built and yr.
Norm

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, here's all you ever need to know about the HIN (Hull Identification Number).

HIN

Have fun! Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks you guys. I was laughing to myself because after I followed your suggestions I realized that I actually purchased a 1985 (not 84) 22 footer built inn may, 05...production # 213.

Thanks Guys/Gals!!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK I read all of this thread plus all the literature I could find and I have a question that I e-mailed to C-Dory Support a week ago and have no answer.

I have a CD22 manufactured in Nov 05 which is 06 model year.
According to all the foregoing the HIN# should therefore end in "06" but according to the two labels on teh boat it ends in "OJ" (And NO it is NOT in California or Las Vegas !!)

The registration and title both quote the HIN as ending in "06"

Puzzled mind wishes to know.

Merv
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See if this will help clear things up:

If your Hull number was

CD025152G506
or
CD 025 152 G 506

It would be...

CD - a C-Dory (Correct) ****PLEASE NOTE THE C-DORY CODE IS "DOR" NOT "CD"!!!

025 -25' Cruiser (Correct)

152- I think this is the production number you're looking for (Correct)


A-Jan
B-Feb
C-Mar
D-Apr
E-May
F-June
G-July
etc (Correct, this is the month the keel was laid or the hull started)


5 -in this case 2005 (I believe this to be INCORRECT.)

Originally, the "5" was the date of the month the hull was laid.

And the last two digits, "05" represent the year the hull was laid.

Therefore:

You can tell the size, number, month and year made, and year model it represents with one glance.

This was a 25' Cruiser, number 152 built (started) July 5, 2005.

Please Note:

As far as model year goes, I believe the convention now used is that the model year for boats changes as of July 1, meaning that as of July 1, 2005, the model year changes to 2006.

So, in the original system,


CD025152G506
or
CD 025 152 G 506

means C-Dory

hull model 25

hull number 152

hull laid down : (traditionally the keel)

G= 7 = July

5 = 5th day of the month

06 = year

And would be a 2006 model.

PLEASE READ CHARLIE'S LINK ABOVE FOR DETAILS!

Hope this helps!

Joe.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW... Flash back here on an old thread.

I sure miss Norm.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe, I appreciate your effort and I would have no problem understanding the code IF my HIN as written on the boat ended in "06". Problem is that it ends with "0J" as in Orange Juice!!! And both plates say the same. Title says "06"

Seems like the factory isn't about to answer.

Merv
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grumpy wrote:
Joe, I appreciate your effort and I would have no problem understanding the code IF my HIN as written on the boat ended in "06". Problem is that it ends with "0J" as in Orange Juice!!! And both plates say the same. Title says "06"

Seems like the factory isn't about to answer.

Merv


MERV-

Sorry about the misunderstanding!

STRANGE that they BOTH say "OJ".

Maybe the person who set up the imprint tapes for the molds was partially dyslexic, and couldn't decipher a "6" from a "J" on a handwritten form?

AND/OR- (on edit)

The tape that makes up the imprint for the boat must be such that to make the imprint, it is raised where the imprint must be depressed, and looking at it from the back side that would be visible when pressed on the mold before lay-up, a "J" would look like a non-reversed "6". This is not an entirely satisfactory answer, of course, but the problem may well at least partially lay in the mechanical process of making the imprint tape and mirror-image of the tape from the back side.

ADDITIONALLY-

Some problems they have had at the factory have stemmed from new, inexperienced employees. A new one might not know what the code means, and not know that the last digit must be the year number, and not a letter.

Who knows for sure?

Joe. Teeth
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe,
Just to make it more fun. BOTH of the numbers on the hull are aluminum, rivetted labels !!!

Curiouser and curiouser!

Merv
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grumpy wrote:
Joe,
Just to make it more fun. BOTH of the numbers on the hull are aluminum, rivetted labels !!!

Curiouser and curiouser!

Merv


News to me!

Haven't seen aluminum riveted labels.

Sounds like they would be too easy to replace by boat steeling thieves, etc.!

Can you see under the labels? Were there imprinted numbers in the fiberglass hull? Could the aluminum labels be a cover-up for another mistake?

If the numbers are now indeed put on in aluminum imprinted labels, just have C-Dory make you a new pair, drill out the old rivets, and rivet in the new!

Curiouser and curiouser, indeed!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the regulations:

The boat manufacturer must display two identical hull identification numbers, no less than one-fourth of an inch high, on each boat hull. The primary HIN must be permanently affixed (so that it can be seen from outside the boat) to the starboard side of the transom within two inches of the top of the transom, gunwale, or hull/deck joint, whichever is lowest. On boats without transoms or on boats on which it would be impractical to the transom, the HIN must be affixed to the starboard outboard side of the hull, aft within one foot of the stern and within two inches of the top of hull side, gunwale, or hull/deck joint, whichever is lowest. The starboard outboard side of the hull aft is the preferred HIN location for many manufacturers. On catamarans and pontoon boats the HIN must be affixed on the aft crossbeam within one foot of the starboard hull attachment.
Boats manufactured or imported on or after August 1, 1984, also have a duplicate secondary HIN affixed somewhere on an unexposed location inside the boat or beneath a fitting or item of hardware. The purpose is to help authorities identify your boat if a thief or vandals remove or damage the primary HIN on the transom. It is illegal for anyone (manufacturer, dealer, distributor, or owner) to alter or remove a HIN without the express written authorization of the Commandant, U.S. Coast Guard.



There should be a second one you can check . Mine, on the 1994 CD22 and the 2006 TC255 were "moulded" into the transom, not on riveted aluminum plates!

Charlie
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charlie-

There is a second label on the boat according to the last post by Grumpy above, and they say the same thing.

Cheers!

Joe. Teeth
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since we are having so much fun with this one here is a picture of the HIN # on the starboard transom



and here is one of the HIN # up under the "eybrow" (also an Aluminum label.


Both are in the Kingfisher album full size.

Appreciate your learned thoughts

Merv
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