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matt_unique



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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City/Region: Boston
State or Province: MA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Napoleon
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Paint Reply with quote

matt_unique wrote:
It's a good idea to check with local boaters to determine the best bottom paint for your area. I use Petit Unepoxy here in MA. I have used several types and this has been the best. I keep my boat on a mooring from April to November. Thankfully my new Tomcat has been painted with this paint. I find it lasts two seasons on the mooring. I also pull my boat a few times a season to powerwash the bottom.

$1700 is a lot....with a trailer or even stands you could save some serious money by doing it yourself. A lot of people don't like to paint though. I don't enjoy it but I save a ton of dough and I know it's done right.


At the end of my dive today I decided to do a good inspection of my hull (with scuba). Nothing crazy to report, I noticed a small ding in my fiberglass that I will repair when I pull it for the season, but the most interesting thing was the sweater on the rear of the hull! I did notice a 2kt reduction in cruise speed today compared to my usual speed for the particular power setting. I did not notice this reduction last weekend when I was out. Anyway this level of junk would certainly do it. Next Sunday I will plan a dedicated hull cleaning dive to get it back up to speed.

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thataway



Joined: 02 Nov 2003
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City/Region: Pensacola
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C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shucks I thought you were cleaning the hull each time you dove. When we were sailboat racing, the bottom got a good cleaning (and sometimes wet sanding with 1200) every week.
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mailbox101



Joined: 31 Mar 2008
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City/Region: Pacifica
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was looking at TomCats, Bill at the Outboard Motor Shop in Oakland, CA stated that they have a TomCat trailer in order to work on the motors of customers that own a TomCat, but not the trailers. It might be worth inquiring of the C-Dory dealer in your area to see if they have a similar setup, and if so, perhaps you could work a deal for a time that they aren't using it. Best of luck.

David
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matt_unique



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:04 am    Post subject: Cleaning Reply with quote

Ha ha - yeah well you would think with my diving I would be cleaning the hull more often! Yesterday was a wake up call to pay closer attention and give it a rub down more often.

I have my own trailer for the Tomcat but no convenient means of a high pressure wash-down for example. My last boat was small enough such that I could literally pull the whole thing into a self-service car wash and clean the hull several times a season. The top of my Tomcat measures 13' on the trailer so it will not fit into the car wash bay Wink

At the end of the season I will be renting a power wash from Home Depot to clean it off good at the house. Bob - I recall you said Marie did not appreciate what your power washing did for the lawn (he he) so I will learn from that lesson and do it at the end of the driveway.

It is amazing how much this junk affects performance. At 3400 rpm I get 22 knots and she was steady at 20 knots yesterday at the same rpm. I knew something was going on and voila. I was thinking of using a bunch of sponges...any other suggestions as to what I should use to clean her off? There are a few barnacles that will require something firm.

I use the boat every week, 815 nautical miles and 79 engine hours so far this season. I guess I did not notice a little 'foundation' growth then over the last week or so it just went nuts down there. Anyway - will be ship shape by the time I'm done next weekend.
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thataway



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have a 10 hp 2500 PSI gasoline driven power washer for the big jobs, but recently purchased a relitaively cheap electric 1700 PSI lower flow washer for the boat small jobs. We find that this will clean off the growth of the bottom--and with some soap, and turned down, it works fine on the decks of the boats. (I don't like the high power washers on the glass). We had used a 3500 PSI large volume washer at one of the haul out yards and it took the bottom paint off nicely!
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matt_unique



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Tools Reply with quote

What tools would you suggest for a cleaning of the hull via scuba? Perhaps a blunt plastic scraper to carefully remove anything stiff and a sponge for the rest?

I know a super high power washing can removing everything. I make sure to use a lower power to remove the sweater but keep the paint.

Thanks for the suggestions.
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thataway



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We use a green 3 m plastic scrub pad for the majority of bottom cleaning. If it is really bad we have used the coarser black pads. If there are barnicles, then a putty knife is a good tool.
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