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Jazzmanic
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:15 pm Post subject: Puget Sound Pink Salmon |
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I had the pleasure of taking Starcraft Tom on our boat this time for Puget Sound Salmon Fishing. We had a great time at Humpy Hollow catching 6 fish total, 3 each. Tom also caught a blackmouth that we had to throw back. Seven fish on C-Dancer is an all-time record! The salmon fishery has been really good this year and I'm fortunate to have caught a few. It looks like Pat Anderson might be joining the ranks of C-Brat fisherman. Good on you, Pat!
Pics to follow when I get home.
Peter
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Sarge
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:34 am Post subject: |
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Peter and Tom,
It was good seeing you guys out there. We finally caught one and the proverbial one that got away (right at the boat!).
Peter, you've got a real fishing machine set up!
-Carl |
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Squarehead
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:58 am Post subject: |
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Where'd you guys fish? _________________ Eric |
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Pat Anderson
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:56 am Post subject: |
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So, how long does the pink fishery go on? It is going to be a while before I can get out - anniversary this next weekend, and a law school classmate from New Jersey is visiting the following weekend. Also, Crabby Lou, the fishing boat, lives in my cousin's driveway in Bellingham, as most of our fishing / crabbing is anticipated to be in Birch Bay / Whatcom county (and probably Canada). I THINK I am free the weekend of the 15th, if anybody needs a guest onboard, I am hot to trot! _________________
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rogerbum
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:27 am Post subject: |
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Pinks will be around through mid Sept but as the pink season tapers down the coho season builds (coho are just starting to show in the sound). When the coho are gone (mid to late Oct), the chinook and winter chinook season opens up.
Basically, if you pick your area right, you can fish for salmon most of the year. However, Sept/Oct are the best in the sound. Go get 'em Pat! _________________ Roger on Meant to be |
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Da Nag
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Ahhh...what a timely post. The brother-in-law and I loaded up on pinks out of Freshwater Bay a week or so back, and they're sitting on the counter waiting for the smoker as I type.
The following is perhaps somewhat basic to you seasoned anglers, but it wasn't too long ago I was in Pat's shoes...perhaps this will help out a few new to the biennial humpy invasion.
While many consider the pink to be inferior eating on the grill compared to silvers/kings, my buddy C-Lou Jon has shown me the light with respect to smoking them...man, what a treat. While there are gazillions of recipes, smoking methods and smokers, here's a simple and cheap way to turn those pinks into fabulous yum yums...
First, if you don't already have one gathering dust in the garage, pick up a Luhr Jensens Little Chief smoker. For the 4-8 lb. pinks that we snag by the boatload in Puget Sound, this smoker works really well...the racks are just the right size for 4 fish (8 fillets.) Eventually I plan on moving up to a Cookshack or SmokinTex, but those cost quite a few more pennies...
Now...here's my method, start to finish. I'm a relative rookie at this, but I've tried to learn from the best, and the following has resulted in nuggets that always seem to get munched up quickly.
1. Catch humpy. Don't bonk. Cut gills, let bleed out in the net a bit, toss on ice in cooler.
2. Fillet, leave skin on. Rinse thoroughly, pat dry with paper towel. Place 4 fish (8 filets) in gallon zip lock (that's how many fit in the smoker at one time), expel as much air as possible, and freeze. I don't bother with a vacuum sealer, unless I expect the fish to stay in the freezer a while - if you can smoke within a few weeks, the ziploc works fine. Oh, and for this method - you don't want to smoke the fish fresh, you want them frozen - I'll explain later.
3. On a Saturday morning (for all you working folk - you retirees can start any morning you like), take two packages of fish out (8 fish, 16 fillets.) Toss them in the sink.
4. Make your brine. Settings aside recipes, there appear to be two schools of thought here - wet vs. dry. For me, I don't understand the wet brines. They are more hassle, and one of the purposes of the brining step is to remove water from the fillet - a dry rub does that very well. My basic brine base - 1 part canning/pickling salt, to four parts dark brown sugar. Do not use table salt! For 16 fillets, I've found 1 cup salt/4 cups brown sugar is just about right. As to what else to add to the brine - be creative, toss in whatever you think will taste good. I always seem to end up with fresh pressed garlic and ground pepper in my mix, but opportunities are endless...experiment and have some fun!
5. When the fish have thawed enough to separate from each other (about 6 hours or so at room temperature), you're ready to start. You want the fish to be slightly flexible, not totally thawed. Remove fillets from bag, and slice through the meat in one inch strips, just down to (but not through) the skin. This is the primary reason I freeze the fish - cutting them partially thawed makes this step far easier and gives much better results.
6. Stack the first layer of fish in a non-metallic container. I use an el-cheapo plastic bin, that fits well on one of my refrigerator shelves. Liberally sprinkle the brine mix over the fillets, covering all of the flesh. Gently tap/rub the mixture into the fish. Stack another layer of fillets on top, and repeat until done.
7. Toss in the fridge overnight. I always let the brine sit for at least 12 hours, but I've gone much longer without problem. Some folks shuffle the fish top to bottom during the brining process as the liquid extracts from the fish - I don't bother.
8. Early the following morning, set up your Little Chief racks on the counter, placing them on a strip of foil. Spray them lightly with PAM.
9. Pull the fish from the fridge/brine. Very gently, rinse the brine mixture off them, and lay them on the racks. Each rack will hold two humpy fillets lengthwise, typically with a little room to spare below them. The spare space comes in handy if your fillet is a little long - take a pair of scissors and snip a small section of the tail off, cutting along one of the slices you made prior to brining.
10. Pat the fillets dry with a paper towel. I also like to crack some fresh ground pepper on top of them at this point, but that's up to you.
11. Leave the fillets on the counter for 2-3 hours. After a whle, you'll start to see them glazing up (called "pellicle") - this is good!
12. Get your smoking chips together, dump them in a bucket, and cover with water. In the 2-3 hours the fish are glazing, the chips will soak up sufficient water. You want them to smother slowly when smoking time comes...never use dry chips. As to the chips themselves - this is another area of personal preference, but many prefer Alder for fish - that's all I use.
13. About 30 minutes prior to the end of the sitting time, turn on the Little Chief to pre-heat it. No need to put the chip pan in.
14. Place the fish in the smoker, along with a full pan of wet chips. Things should smolder for 30-45 minutes, after which you should replace the chips at least once. This is yet another area of personal preference - it's not necessary to keep things smoking throughout the entire process, but how many times you replace the chips will definitely impact flavor. I replace them 4-5 times, but I like a fairly heavy smoke flavor.
15. The Little Chief smokes the little pinks fairly quickly - probably 4-5 hours or so, but eyeball and taste things from time to time. Some folks like their fish moist, other like it almost like jerky. Regardless, rotate the racks from time to time - the fish on top will cook more quickly. There are five shelves, and four racks making this easy.
16. At about 2 hours in, repeat steps 9-11 for the second batch of fish still sitting in the brine mixture. They'll be ready to go in the smoker when batch #1 finished.
While eating the above all by itself is pretty dang good, you can make a smoked salmon shmear pretty easily that's to die for...toss some smoked salmon, cream cheese, sun-dried tomato (along with some of the olive oil they come in) into the Cuisinart and whip. Dice up some red onions very fine, and hand mix them in. Mmmmmm......eat it on a toasted bagle for breakfast, and your day can't possibly get off to a better start.
Hope the above helps a rookie or two - have fun! _________________
Will, C-Brat Nerd 
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject: Puget Sound Pink Salmon |
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Must be a pretty good recipe, it's already drawing fly's!
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Dora~Jean
Joined: 09 Mar 2004 Posts: 1515 City/Region: Simi Valley
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Bill, thanks for the detailed explanation and personal recommendations, best I've ever seen! I've had a Little Chief for years, mixed results following their recipes, I'll be doing yours for sure -- as soon as I can get my hands on some salmon that is (Costco comes to mind....). _________________ Steve & Carmen
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Da Nag
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Dora~Jean wrote: | I've had a Little Chief for years, mixed results following their recipes, I'll be doing yours for sure -- as soon as I can get my hands on some salmon that is (Costco comes to mind....). |
Well...my guess is, things might be OK, but I've not had as good results using the Little Chief for silvers or kings.
My guess is, this is due to the temperature. The Little Chief is at the very top end of acceptable smoking temps, which is not a big deal if you keep lots of moist chips going, and smoke small filets like pinks or trout.
Larger/thicker fillets, need to cook much longer at lower temps. Which is a primary reason I'd like to get one of the smokers mentioned above - they can really be turned down for a long, slow smoke...
I've often thought about wiring up some cheap voltage reducer for the Little Chief - lower temps might make it usable for a wider variety of meats. There's also another option I didn't mention - home made. Our buddy Jon has a fairly large plywood shack, that holds oven racks and uses a Walmart hot plate as a burner. A little ugly, but quite functional - he turns out some of the best smoked salmon folks have had at the C-Brat gatherings. |
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starcrafttom
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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pat do you want to go fishing in the morning?? monday?? call in sick, its the first step in the process of becoming a fisherman. just bring the pro-release with you....  _________________ Thomas J Elliott
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gljjr
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Good write up Bill! Them Humpies are GOOD smoked! That is about the ONLY way I use them. The key to them is to cut the gills while in the net.
The only thing I do different is that I only use Glass caseroles during the brining process. Using plastic can lead to strange tastes being added to the meat. And as Bill stated, make sure to use Non-Iodized Salt! If you don't the meat will end up tasting like metal
I've yet to get out for Humpies this year. But maybe I can take a day next week. _________________ Gary Johnson
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Dora~Jean
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Do you think a variac would work on the Little Chief to reduce the AC voltage going in? I agree, pretty warm for a smoker. Forgot if it has a fan, don't think so. Variacs can be found at old electronic surplus yards. |
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gljjr
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think the Little Cheif is too hot. More likely that it just doesn't regulate the temp very well when it is windy. Most people will slip the box over the top of them to keep the breeze off.
I typically smoke my salmon on the high end of the heat range (about 180 instead of 140) and still have good results. I use a converted BBQ with the side smoke box.
Hey Tom, if you have an extra seat I would love to hit the water with you! |
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Da Nag
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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gljjr wrote: | The only thing I do different is that I only use Glass caseroles during the brining process. Using plastic can lead to strange tastes being added to the meat. |
Good point, Gary - I've read that as well, although I've not suffered from it with my bin. I'm guessing with all the variations in plastics, I got lucky with mine...but it's probably better to play it safe as you suggest. |
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rogerbum
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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I just came in from throwing 6 pink salmon and one large coho the smoker. I used my wet brine (post here). While I agree a dry brine is easier, I like a wet brine made with a lot of soy sauce for the flavor it adds. Also, we brines allow one to control the degree of salt in the finished product a bit better. I like mine less salty than some.
Last year I got rid of my little chief and bought myself a Bradley (my Christmas present to me - I really like me ). The downside to the Bradley is that it uses biscuits of chip (another expense). The upside is that the internal temp is controlled separately from the smoke generator and the biscuits allow it to auto feed and generate smoke for hours unattended. It also contains a nice stainless bowl for water to keep the humidity up. Bill, when it comes time to buy a new smoker, you might consider a Bradley - I love mine. |
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