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Levity
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:04 pm Post subject: Wave Height Prediction and Estimation |
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A breezy experience last week caused me to seek a method using wind velocity and fetch to predict wave heights. Is there such a formula? A reasonably accurate prediction could help with a go/no go decision.
What is the most accurate method of estimating wave height from the helm?
Seems that the movement of the boat makes fixing wave heights difficult.
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Sea Wolf
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Mike-
There probably is a predicition formula, but the current would make a huge difference considering how it lays down the waves when it's going with them and stands them up when it opposes them.
I'll bet most folks over-estimate the heights of waves, often by a facor of 2X or more.
Joe. _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
 
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Sea Wolf
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BrentB
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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You can estimate by determing your height above the waterline.
I am 6'4" and say for example 8" above waterline in the boat at the dock. When in a trough and if you cant see over the crest then waves are over 7'. if you can see over them then less than 7.
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MOOSE
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, there is a formula; some of my engineer friends use it to calculate significant wave heights on waterfront projects. It also incorporates duration, for the longer the wind blows at a a certain speed and across a given distance, the bigger the wave. Unfortunately, that's the extent of my knowledge.
Al _________________ .....and remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy. |
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rogerbum
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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For swell and wind predictions I use wetsands.com
Their site gives reasonably accurate predictions of swell height and has a 7 day prediction window. Of course, it's more accurate a few days out than it is 7 days out. However, I've found it to be very good. In particular, if you see that there are 3 really low swell days in a row predicted for a couple of days from now. You can almost bank on the middle of those 3 days to be great. Check out the URL and select the region in which you are interested. _________________ Roger on Meant to be |
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JamesTXSD
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:29 am Post subject: |
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Nice site, Roger... wave height, swell, period, and wind. Have you found it to be reasonably accurate for planning purposes a couple days out? I've added that to my favorites!
I've used NOAA, but this looks better to show trend. Thanks!
Best wishes,
Jim B. _________________ Jim & Joan
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rogerbum
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:57 am Post subject: |
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JamesTXSD wrote: | Nice site, Roger... wave height, swell, period, and wind. Have you found it to be reasonably accurate for planning purposes a couple days out? I've added that to my favorites!
I've used NOAA, but this looks better to show trend. Thanks!
Best wishes,
Jim B. |
Jim,
Yes. I primarily use it to pick the days when I will leave the Strait of Juan de Fuca to fish in the ocean. It's very good (at least for the Neah Bay area). When I go out there to fish for a week, I have visitors bring me a fresh print out every day or two for planning purposes. |
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