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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject: Acetone...? Reply with quote

Is there any truth to this? I figured someone like Joe or Bob could shed light on it.

http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My concern with any gasoline addditives used on a modern computerize engine that it might cause a problem with the O2 sensor and send a false signal to ECM causing new problems and causing more grief for the mechanic to resolve when the owner brings the problem to the shop or the vehicle is towed to the shop.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool down pump would be better. Gas pumps are calibrated at 60 degrees. As the temperature increases, gasoline expands thus pumping gas when it is hot, the consumer purchases less gas.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:14 pm    Post subject: myth Reply with quote

According to Snopes. com that is a Fake statement that has been going around the web for a while on Urban Legends
Just my input.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the link at Snopes.

Be aware that Snopes has serious popup window issues so use with caution!

Man it would be nice if that were actually true in the first article.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be interesting to try in the boat since I already have fuel flow
gauges linked to the GPS. I wonder if acetone would damage the
fuel tanks in any way? Cars have metal tanks, I assume, and C-Dorys,
plastic.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Several observations:

1. The article is of "Panacea Proportions"........too good to be totally true, or at least I suspect so without reading elsewhere. A miniscule amount of acetone is claimed to yield benefits of hard to believe proportions.

2. If you read the Snopes posts and other critical reviews, you'll get your suspicions confirmed that #1 is true.

3. Whether or not to introduce a hot solvent like acetone into your fuel system is a serious question. Fuel tanks and their existant residues, fuel lines, fuel filters, gaskets, , and fuel injector pumps and nozzles may be subject to problems when exposed to acetone.

I use SeaFoam fuel system cleaner, Berryman fuel injector cleaner, and add both Techron and Stabil to my regular gas fillings. These contain a number of solvents as well, some of them aggressive, but I'm certainly not sure that it's advisaable to add more acetone to the mixture.

4. Do you want to put your $5,000-$12,000 finely tuned and technologically sophisticated outboard motor on the block as a test engine for an unverified idea? Not me, at least!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Along the same subject, I watch and rarely say anything on how folks add items to gasoline.
ex
One ounce of STA-BIL for every 2-½ gallons of gasoline is the recommended dosage level.

I just watched a person at the filling station add 12 ounces to a 6 gallon tank of fresh gas.
" a little extra will not hurt" and I always wanted to know what is the limit on a little extra.

I always wanted to ask is how stable is STA-BIL? Does it need a preservative?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brent wrote:
Along the same subject, I watch and rarely say anything on how folks add items to gasoline.
ex
One ounce of STA-BIL for every 2-½ gallons of gasoline is the recommended dosage level.

I just watched a person at the filling station add 12 ounces to a 6 gallon tank of fresh gas.
" a little extra will not hurt" and I always wanted to know what is the limit on a little extra.

I always wanted to ask is how stable is STA-BIL? Does it need a preservative?


Yes, the STA-BIL has a shelf life, as I've read on the bottle's label.


"What is the shelf life of STA-BIL Fuel Stabilizer?

2 years after the bottle has been opened, provided it has been tightly capped and stored in a cool, dry place."

(Taken from the manufacturer's website.)

It seems most everything has it's shelf life limitations, and having just turned 65, I can attest that includes me, too!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just start ignoring birthdays but on the other hand

Happy Birthday, Joe!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Happy Birthday Joe! Very Happy "Put another candle on your birthday cake, your birthday cake...." (Sheriff John). And of course every day, Redlight, Greenlight had to be played (Engineer Bill). (Me thinks this thread has just morphed...hmmmm)

Oh, on acetone, I agree with you, not on my $8K engines, but maybe on an old beater car (if I had one).

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The acetone additative is pure hoax--along with a bunch of other things.

We are now in Cleveland at Cleveland clinic--comming up we had about 1/4 of the 100 gallon fuel tank in the RV, old fuel from the CD 25 (had been stabalized, and we added soltron, we got about a mile a gallon less than we expected--and our expectations were based on about 50,000 miles with this vehicle. Our second fill up--was 100% new fuel showed mileage back up to normal. This is fill up to fill up--with a system which seems to be very consistant--so old fuel may not perform as effeciently as new fue--and StaBil may not entirely keep fuel from having some decay.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thataway wrote:
The acetone additative is pure hoax--along with a bunch of other things.

We are now in Cleveland at Cleveland clinic--comming up we had about 1/4 of the 100 gallon fuel tank in the RV, old fuel from the CD 25 (had been stabalized, and we added soltron, we got about a mile a gallon less than we expected--and our expectations were based on about 50,000 miles with this vehicle. Our second fill up--was 100% new fuel showed mileage back up to normal. This is fill up to fill up--with a system which seems to be very consistant--so old fuel may not perform as effeciently as new fue--and StaBil may not entirely keep fuel from having some decay.


Interesting you mention that. We still had one tank of "old" fuel on the
CD-22. When I burned it a few weeks ago, the mileage dropped
from 4.1 or so to 3.6-3.8. Since we were loaded, I attributed the decrease
to the load. However, we weren't paying attention and managed to completely
burn off the fuel in that tank. Switched, and mileage immediately jumped
to 4.1-4.4 again.

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