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Mason C. Bailey
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 59 City/Region: Bothell
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2002
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: McNaughty III
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject: Honda Repair Seattle Area |
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I just returned from my annual Neah Bay Halibut trip. We had a great time and caught almost our limits every day. I'll talk more about that and post pictures later but I need some advice first. While fishing we noticed that we were leaving a slight oil or gas slick two times after stopping the boat. Engine repair is not something you want to worry about when you are 20 miles out in the ocean, but I pulled the covers off the engines to take a look. The starboard side engine (twin 40 hondas) had a small amount of what looked like oil but smelled like gas around the engine. I checked connections to the gas filter and made sure the oil filter was tight. When I pulled the boat out and got it home noticed that the exhaust outlet was very oily. I pulled the oil dip stick to see if I had lost oil but oil came out the dip stick hole and it appears that it is mixed with gas.
So my questions are: what would cause this? Is it something I could fix? Can anyone recommend a good honda repair shop in the north Seattle or Everett area?
Thanks for you advice, Mason on McNaughty III |
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Notayot
Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 122
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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This sounds like one of the carb floats is stuck open on that particular engine. You could probably check the spark plugs to see if one is soot black from too much fuel. That would tell you which carb it is. _________________
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oldgrowth
Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 2196 City/Region: Rochester
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Mason - it sounds like you have bad rings, a broken piston or a hole in a piston. A stuck carb float would let excessive gas in the cylinder but it should just go out the exhaust, not in the oil unless you also have one of the above conditions also. To get gas into the oil it has to be going by the rings.
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Grumpy
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Mason,
You are not too far from EQ marine in Cornet Bay. Les and his team do Honda work.
Merv |
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Sawdust
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 1400 City/Region: Oak Harbor
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmmm - repair by email ungood. But even a messed up thermostat can cause the same indications... your annual service should pinpoint the problem. Plug read, compression check, etc. should tell all.
Who cares about a motor when you are getting halibut in the boat
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thataway
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Agree that there are several reasons for "making" oil...and you need to have the engine checked out througherly. If the oil is diluted by gas, it will not be lubricating properly. Definately have it checked out before the next trip. _________________ Bob Austin
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jimandlaurie
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 565 City/Region: Puyallup
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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We took our Honda for the recall repair for the shift lever to King Salmon Marine at the Tacoma Shop. It only took them about a half-hour to fix it and were really cool about it . They are in the top 3 Honda sales in the country... according to them.. I am going there to have my service done when ready too, They have another store on Auburn I think, so they might work too. _________________ Commodore Jim & Adm. Laurie
Former C-Dory Christener.
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Mason C. Bailey
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 59 City/Region: Bothell
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for everyones replies. The two closest shops to me appear to be 3 Rivers Marine in Grace (outside Woodinville) and Bayside Marine in Everett. Has anyone used either of these shops? Also it would seem to me that if it where bad rings or a hole in the piston that it would run poorly. But it ran fine the whole trip, no strange noises and no change in RPM.
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dotnmarty
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Mason- I don't think that Bayside works on outboards. As for Three Rivers, I haven't had any work done there but I have gotten parts there and found them knowlegeable and helpful, and they had parts in stock when no one else in the area did. Hope this helps. _________________ MartyP
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Island Ranger
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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I used Bayside Marine for one of the checkups on Two Lucky Fish. I know they do Johnson motors, don't know if they do Hondas. The work seemed OK, but they did leave out one of the screws for the cover when they reassembled. I'd probably go back if needed, but really preferred to use EQ up in Cornet Bay. I called for an appointment - they did the work while I waited.
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digger
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Les and his boys at EQ if they have the time........That's my vote. _________________ previous snoopy-c owner, previous c-miner owner, current C-Sik owner(22 angler) |
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Grumpy
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Amen to Digger's comment. At the very least I would discuss it with Les (AKA the Oracle) and I'm sure he will give you an open and honest opinon even if you decide to do it elsewhere this may stand you in good stead !!
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Work Release
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject: Honda Repairs Seattle Area |
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Mason,
Bayside Marine bought out Sandy's which is located on Marine View Drive and they service and sale Honda and Yamaha outboards. I have used them and and have no complaints.
Jim |
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Opsal
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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I had my Annual check up, hydraulic steering cylinder replaced and complete trailer rebuild at 3 rivers last year. They did a good job, they were close and nice to deal with but... next time it's worth the effort to take it back up to Les! He is just so knowledgeable and pleasant to work with. |
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rogerbum
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:09 am Post subject: |
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I had one of my 100 hour services done at Three Rivers near Woodenville. They did a good job but are priced about 1.5x what everyone else charges. _________________ Roger on Meant to be |
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