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Jon - CLou
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 316 City/Region: Port Angeles
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1986
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: C-Lou
Photos: C-Lou and Pee Wee
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:00 pm Post subject: Bow Hatch |
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I'm trying to convince myself that a bow hatch is necessary, but I'm having a hard time deciding. Our 1986 angler never had a hatch installed, so I kinda forgot what I was missing without one.
My three concerns are, fragile lid, leakage, and exposing electronics, wiring and connections with salt air. So far, the exposed wiring in the V-berth area looks real good, and it's been almost 20 years.
Are these concerns an issue or should I go for it? Twenty x twenty is a really big hole.
Jon |
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TyBoo
Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 5315 City/Region: Warrenton
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 1996
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruise Ship
Vessel Name: TyBoo
Photos: TyBoo
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | My three concerns are, fragile lid, leakage, and exposing electronics, wiring and connections with salt air. |
No need for concern about any of those, really. The 1987 TyBoo had the original hatch, and it was never a problem. So long as you installed a good quality hatch, it would serve you well.
Whether or not you need it is a different matter. The only time I ever used mine was during anchoring operations, and once I got a windlass to take care of that chore, the hatch was never really used. It is good for letting in a little air on the hot days, but for us, the rainy days seem to outnumber the hot ones. If you sleep in the v-berth, sure as the dickens you will find yourself always under a dock light, or, worse yet, you may find Catman up there peeking in, so C would have to make another quilted curtain for the thing. I say forget it, and go for something you need more. _________________ TyBoo Mike
Sold: 1996 25' Cruise Ship
Sold: 1987 22' Cruiser |
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Adeline
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 985 City/Region: Vancouver
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1989
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Adeline
Photos: Adeline
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Jon , I did'nt realize that any C-Dorys came w/o hatches. There are several things that make it indispensible for me. Access to the foredeck when it's really rough. Ventilation. If it's not raining, I can keep it open and if it is I "dog it" and turn on my Nicro 24 hour(solar) powervent(mounted in lens). It provides some light when closed. And when I'm anchored I can gaze up @ the stars as I doze off to sleep. There is nothing better than watching the constellations change as I rotate on the "hook". As far as flimsiness goes, the cored area there is about 1 inch thick. I know this because I had to remove it when a leak appeared while anchored in Quartermaster Harbor(Vashon Island) in a squall. Water found its way into a screw hole and rained on me all night. Once home I removed the hatch and filled all the holes with West System epoxy. Then I simply re-installed it with 5200. It'll never leak now. I would advise that you forego the screws too. Be sure to coat the exposed balsa core with West System before drop it in. I did crack the acrylic lens in '95 and got a replacement from Bomar. It was spendy. If it happened again I would go to Tap Plastics and have them make one for me. Pete _________________ Pete
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Jon - CLou
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 316 City/Region: Port Angeles
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1986
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: C-Lou
Photos: C-Lou and Pee Wee
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah Pete, no hatch or bow rail. I think it's the only boat in the fleet without it.
Good point Mike. A little velcro, some thick canvas and a squirt gun will take care of all the invaders.
Hey, something else a hatch would be good for is to scare folks. I know this first hand because last year Cynthia and I was walking around the marina at dusk and some hairy faced guy lifted up his hatch and barked at us. Holy smacks, if I would of jumped 2 more inches to the left, I would of been in the drink. |
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Chivita
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 218 City/Region: Hansville
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Chivita
Photos: Chivita
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Jon,
One other thing to think about with the hatch, could be good or not. Your Grandkids will quickly discover how much fun it is to ride up in the v-berth with their heads out the hatch. If they can't be in the Captain's chair, then they'll want the hatch view. I can't blame them as I enjoy it as well.
Chivita Dave |
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Jon - CLou
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 316 City/Region: Port Angeles
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1986
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: C-Lou
Photos: C-Lou and Pee Wee
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:20 am Post subject: |
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Now that's the reason I was looking for. Thanks Chivita Dave, sometimes I forget the obvious things. C-Lou is going to get a bow hatch! |
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DaveS
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 3204 City/Region: Arlington
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Shift
Photos: Sea Shift
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 1:06 am Post subject: |
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Chivita wrote: | Jon,
Your Grandkids will quickly discover how much fun it is to ride up in the v-berth with their heads out the hatch. |
What do you mean grandkids? ......with the new Sea Shift and its' auto pilot, I fully plan on sitting in the v-berth with my head stuck up through the bomar hatch and if I have to alter course, I'll have the remote auto pilot with me to steer the boat!.....no more having to sit in a helm seat for me....ahhh the feel of fresh salt air rushing across my grizzled face... ....won't even need a windshield wiper for the center window. _________________ Dave S.
"Sea Shift"
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Lynn Marie
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 440 City/Region: Redmond
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 1997
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Photos: Lynn Marie
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 11:04 am Post subject: |
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As a building inspector I'm always dealing with Egress. Seems to go with the job and it just sort of gets to be a thing with us wether it's out of a big assembly room or an egress window from a sleeping room.
With fire always being a concern on boats and a possible point of ignition being a catastrophic failure in a Wallas, I've got a smoke detector and a carbon monoxide detector mounted on the bottom side of the overhead shelf; but to me one of the best things on a C-Dory is the Bomar hatch that you can actually get out of which was already there. I can't think of many small boat manufactures that do this and it's something I point out to people when I'm telling them all the neat things these little vessels have. If the GPS is the jewelry, then the hatch is that warm fuzzy blanket.
I couldn't sleep well without it.
Tim _________________ Tim and Judy w/o the Lynn Marie |
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