Enclosed Head in CD-22

williamsburg · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject: Enclosed Head in CD-22

I am the proud owner of DORYME(you know do, re, me, fa, so), a CD-22.One of the members of our boating group recently purchased a CD-25 and my wife developed an acute case of toilet envy. Having repeated the mantra numerous times: "I ain't spending $35,000 on no damn toilet", I found myself on what is known as the horns of a dilemma. What added to my problem was that I had been offered a 12 year old, but unused, Sealand Traveler Head, the one that uses fresh water and has a holding tank in the base. With more bravado than ability, I cleared the entire port side of the cabin of seats, dinette, and water tank. Through some miracle, I am now about 80% finished with my new head and decided to show some photos. It proves the old adage about fools rushing in where angles fear to tread - but it worked out OK. The building process can be seen on my web page (because I can't figure out how to submit photos).

www.members.cox.net/rlampert3/index.html

starcrafttom · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject:

Thats really cool . the factory did a head in a 22 for someone last year ,but they put the head where the cook top is and got rid of the sink. it was at hte factory two years ago during the dinner. I have never seen the owner post here. Your way you still get to cook and eat. I quess dinning out side is the way to go in va.

drjohn71a · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject:

I always thought you could make the stove and sink counter hinge up and aft to uncover an enclosed head.

Sounds like you've figured out another answer.

John

patrick and linda · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:06 pm Post subject:

hi doryme,
great job. your post is exactly what makes this site important to me. great ideas, advice, and fantastic fellowship.

bravo,
pat

Jazzmanic · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject:

Great job! Well executed! I'm impressed, thanks for sharing.

Peter
C-Dancer

Pat Anderson · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject:

What Peter said! Wow! Great job! I would never have thought this was feasible, but seeing is believing!

Rabbits Hutch · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject:

I recently was checking out the new and used C-Dorys on Bulldog Boatwerks web site. They are in the Fort Meyers, Florida area. They had a 22' Cruiser that had the bathroom being discussed here. Maybe its the same boat. I dont recall her name, but she is/was for sale. Maybe there are photos of the interior on that site. As I recall, it was bulldogboatwerks.com

If the boat isnt for sale any longer, maybe they still have the pictures on file.

Gary R.

Chester · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:12 pm Post subject:

Do, re, me... clever I like it.
Good job on the head. Losing the porta potty gives you a good storage nook.
Are you considering installing a vent or small hatch above the head?

SeaSpray · Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:46 am Post subject:

Nice looking job!

Do the head get the flush water from the fresh water tank or is there another storage tank?

The only loss is the table and some storage space.

Steve

TyBoo · Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:27 am Post subject:

Very nice work. Probably a good project choice, too, considering the toilet envy factor. Your craftsmanship and your courage are impressive, as is the wisdom of how to direct the courage to saying yes because saying no would take a lot more. I have one of those Traveler Heads in my boat, and it is hassle-free.

Sea Wolf · Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:29 am Post subject:

williamsburg-

A little history from the C-Brat Wikipedia:

"Toilet Envy has been the downfall of many a C-Dory 22 Captains who have Fallen from Grace and been subjugated to become CD-25 Cruise Ship Yes-Men and Humbled Keepers of the Royal Privy Seal. This despicable Boot-Kissing transcends the Free Spirit inherent in the C-Dory Quest and places The Admiralty squarely upon The Throne and Seat of Power aboard ship. This is all pretty funny until you realize you're driving around a Fancy Toilet House with your better half barking out the Orders From The Bathroom. But then you realize this is no different than it was at home, and all is well again........."

Seriously, great job on the bathroom! The door conflict between privacy and helm vision is tough one to resolve. How about a roll-up style door overhead on a heavy-duty roller that slides down the doorway in a split track on either side to the floor? Just a thought!

Joe. Laughing

dotnmarty · Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:57 am Post subject:

Now there's an option that would make me consider moving up from a 16 to a 22. Great job.

drjohn71a · Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:15 am Post subject:

Wow... that is a neat addition.... so well done!

And Joe of Sea Wolf, great slant on the situation...

John

williamsburg · Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:47 am Post subject: Thanks!

Thanks for the positive comments. You are correct that it required less courage to start the project than to tell the boss lady "No" on the toilet issue.
We are going to try the curtain which will ride on a slide mechanism and snap closed although the roll up door may be the way to go.
As far as the exhaut fan, we have no plans for this. I have been married to the same woman for 45 years.
We will not miss the dinette table except possibly as extra counter space for food prearation. Even then, an elbow on the wrong corner and everything goes flying. We have a folding table and chairs and eat under the bimini. I believe they call this alfresco in yachting magazines, but we just eat outside.
The flush water comes from the main water tank. The manual says less than a pint per flush, so we shall see.
There are still a number of things to complete the job. I will submit photos of the head when completed.
The old Sealand Traveler Head I used is now improved and sold as the Dometic 711-M28 Head in the West Marine catalog (can be found much cheaper).
Again, thanks for your comments.

drjohn71a · Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:02 am Post subject:

Williamsburg...

Great job. Relating to the "less than quart per flush" from the manufacturer: We have the same head and it really fills up the waste tank with flushing water. Up to now, we've been leaving the water pump off for liquid waste flushing, to slow down the volume of flushing water.

I'm trying to find some kind of "limiter" or maybe just a valve that could be mostly closed on the water intake line in order to reduce the flushing volume. It's a great head other than the tendency to fill up with flushing water.

John