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C-WEED
Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 338 City/Region: New Brockton
State or Province: AL
C-Dory Year: 2000
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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I am just getting around to putting my slider/screen window in. Is 3M-4200 the sealant of choice for this application? Seal both sides or just the outside?
Thanks, _________________ Chris |
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CaptMac
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 225 City/Region: Amelia Island / Jacksonville
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: Windo |
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I just used a fat bead of clear silicon all the way around to install the new window. Looks great. Thanks, Jay! _________________ Capt Mac Daniel
Flounder Gigging Charters
Amelia Island, Florida 32034
http://www.floundergigging.com
Flounder Gigging Charters
"The Adventure of a Night-time"
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mikeporterinmd
Joined: 15 Sep 2006 Posts: 645
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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There was no sealant around the original window, so I didn't put any on
the replacement. The door is basically starboard or a similar plastic, so if
a leak did develop, it wouldn't be the end of the world. There were no leaks in
a good thunderstorm the other night.
If you are going to use a sealant, you want to create a 'bed'. The way I
usually do this is the lay a bead, insert quarters at the corners of the
frame, and perhaps one halfway down on each side. The quarters are
just barely inside the frame...their job is to create a gap.
I then lightly fasten the window in and let the sealant dry. After it has has set
up so it has some firmness, I remove the quarters and tighten the
screws down. This basically forms a gasket which I've never had leak.
If you don't do something like this, the sealant will be forced out when you
tighten the screws and not do much to prevent a leak.
Oh, I also tape the outline of the frame so squeeze out doesn't get all over the
surface you are mounting on. Perhaps not so important with starboard
since nothing much sticks to it anyhow. But, removing Life Seal from
gelcoat is not so easy.
Mike |
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tsturm
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 1134 City/Region: Soldotna
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: JMR TOO
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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C-WEED wrote: | I am just getting around to putting my slider/screen window in. Is 3M-4200 the sealant of choice for this application? Seal both sides or just the outside?
Thanks, |
Mine(1990) was installed with clear sillicone & that's how it went back together The prob with 4200 is if you ever need to remove the window you are gonna hate yourself
I did both in & out. What squeezes out cleans up with a plastic scraper & rag way easy
Have fun!! |
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C-WEED
Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 338 City/Region: New Brockton
State or Province: AL
C-Dory Year: 2000
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Weed
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:42 am Post subject: |
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Your right Mike, the clear sealant works good. What little oozed out I just waited 48 hours and cut it right off with an exacto knive.
A very simple mod and a great upgrade. I thought about putting the standard window in the bottom. Two of the crew have four paws and long hair. A German Shepherd and Border Collie. I figured maybe I was better off not seeing all the slober, nose prints and hair.
I live in the land of High humidity, heat, pollen and dust. My boat sits under a boat port with a mooring cover on. This slider will allow much needed ventalation/bug protection while parked. And the mooring cover will help keep out the pollen, bugs and dust.
Thanks again Jay for the window upgrade efforts. |
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C-Green
Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 310 City/Region: Houghton
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2002
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject: ugh |
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Sorry for the post but the Michigan Dept. of Treasury send me a letter notifying me that I owe $213.96 in use taxes for the imported windows. It appears the feds notified the State of the importation, etc. etc. So I ask that the 13 other lucky owners of doors with opening windows share in this unexpected expense. The way I figure it the white window owners owe $15.50/ea and the aluminum window owners owe $14.50/ea. Please make checks payable to J. B. Green, Jr. and mail to 4012 Portage Cove Drive, Houghton, MI 49931. Also could you please post, pm, or email me letting me know your $'s are coming; I can then pm or email those that don't pick up on this post.
Your faithful window expeditor, Jay |
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Not For Hire
Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 347 City/Region: Cadillac, MI
State or Province: MI
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Jay,
Saw the post and I say not a penny more. Well I guess I'll send you a check since you did promise dock space some day at Isle Royale.
I stayed too long at the fair, thinking I would get out again since I had done so little boating this summer. Then it snowed, then it forecast big snow, so two weeks ago I got my boat into my friend's barn. I went over this weekend and winterized the engines. You know you waited too long if snowmobiles pass your truck and trailer as you haul your boat.
I really enjoyed the window this year. The check is in the mail.
Regards,
Mark _________________ Mark S
Cadillac, Michigan |
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C-batical
Joined: 08 Apr 2004 Posts: 201 City/Region: Pinckney
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Jay,
I bet your heart skipped a couple of beats when you read the State's letter; mine would have The bureaucrats should be worrying about the tons of illegal cigarettes and other substances entering this state illegally rather than spending the time going after a few C-Brats trying to keep cool. In any case, like Mark, I sure enjoyed the window this summer and appreciate all you did to get them for us. I will write a check out to you immediately after finishing this reply and it will be in the mail tomorrow. Pleaae let me know if you don't receive it in a week.
Thanks again,
Rollie/C-Batical _________________ Rollie/C-Batical
Pinckney, MI |
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tsturm
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 1134 City/Region: Soldotna
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:46 pm Post subject: Re: ugh |
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C-Green wrote: | Sorry for the post but the Michigan Dept. of Treasury send me a letter notifying me that I owe $213.96 in use taxes for the imported windows. It appears the feds notified the State of the importation, etc. etc. So I ask that the 13 other lucky owners of doors with opening windows share in this unexpected expense. The way I figure it the white window owners owe $15.50/ea and the aluminum window owners owe $14.50/ea. Please make checks payable to J. B. Green, Jr. and mail to 4012 Portage Cove Drive, Houghton, MI 49931. Also could you please post, pm, or email me letting me know your $'s are coming; I can then pm or email those that don't pick up on this post.
Your faithful window expeditor, Jay |
Jay,
First ,Thanks Again for the trouble and hassle you went through to get the windows.
Talk about picking the white stuff out of the Chicken Shit
I would be on the phone to the local state senator, rep, & govenor's office. I will put a CK in the mail tomorrow! |
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C-WEED
Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 338 City/Region: New Brockton
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C-Dory Year: 2000
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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Jay,
Checks in the mail.
Thanks, |
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C-Green
Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 310 City/Region: Houghton
State or Province: MI
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C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:39 am Post subject: checks recieved |
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C-Weed, Larry K, tstrum, C-Batical, handybrat, and Not for Hire thank you for the checks. I will be pm-ing the others as they haven't responded. Welborn I got your check too; please confirm that you are True Story; I've threw away all my notes long ago foolish thinking it was a done deal and am fuzzy on that name.
Jay |
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