EU1000 Versus EU2000

John S · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:21 am Post subject:

I'm pretty well committed to the Honda over the Yamaha, already owning 4 Honda outboards, adding a fifth soon, it just keeps things a little simpler.

Oh yeah,

Does anyone have a better source for these generators than www.wisesales.com ?

John

Byrdman · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:47 am Post subject:

I like those external tanks... sweeeeeet.... and save those refueling moments till daylight....

anyone seen the boxes that Glacier Bay is building to run the Honda Gen sets in? Somebody at the Atlanta boat show indicated they had come up with a pretty simple rig, as to leave the gens out on the platforms, and at the same time, protect them from the salt spray????

Pat Anderson · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:54 am Post subject:

I see we have our priorities straight in case of power failure - we sit in the dark at our computers drinking beer! Must run in the family!

Pat Anderson · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:04 am Post subject:

A word of caution - PLEASE get a CO alarm, have it near the sole in the cabin. Shortly after getting it, we ran our EU2000 on Daydream in the cockpit with the exhaust facing the stern with the cabin door closed. In only a few minutes it triggered the CO alarm. Now the generator only runs when on its little platform in the motorwell and the exhaust going overboard. Or run it on the cabin roof, or anywhere the exhaust will escape from the boat. CO is heavier that air, and will settle and migrate with air movement if you run the generator in the cockpit - and the door is no barrier to that. As we saw in the extended power outage here in the Northwest in December (many without power for a week or more), CO MUST be taken seriously - it is the silent killer.

Sea Wolf · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:06 am Post subject:

John S

"Joe, do you sell your "fuel cap to the Racor filter connector"
I will be in the market for one soon."

No, but you can see how to make one or I'll help you out as much as possible.

There's a specific site where there are tons of ideas on how to work with the Honda EU 2000 (and EU 1000, therefore) HERE

Also, there are pictures of my set up starting HERE and for the following several photos.

Joe.

B~C · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:16 am Post subject:

Concerning Wise sales- I'm leary of mail order, always like to kick the tires and fondle the merchandise before laying out the money but Wise had by far the best prices on the Honda EU2k so I took a shot. One call and four days later there was a nice little gen set at my door as advertised...good outfit, two thumbs up.

I debated 1k vs 2k gen sets and decided that the 2k was only about 14# heavier than the 1k (what the heck is 14#? most folks pack more than 14# of beer onboard). Another consideration is that with, say, an 8oo watt load that 1k machine is going to be running hard wheras the 2k is going to be just loafing, less rpm, less noise....mind you, ideally for the health and efficiency of the generator, loafing isn't a good thing so when I fire up the hot plate and the heater it gets loaded...that little $14 electric hot plate is sure a handy item, you'll be surprised at how many otherr handy electric items you'll run into once you have juice onboard (that's where the weight comes in)

Sea Wolf Joe and I where fiddling around with generator gas caps the would allow you to hook up to the main fuel tank for extended running. I purchased a Honda fitting and installed it into a gas cap from a Harmony mower, this allows one to unhook the fuel line from the outboard and hook it to the generator....aint field tested it yet, should work.

don't forget to get a CO detector

Adeline

Joe, did you ever figure out where your air leak was coming from ? Was it the cap itself ? If I copy your setup, do you think that I'll be able to lift fuel from my Racor up to my Yamaha w/o starving her.

John S · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:10 pm Post subject:

Joe, if we can't talk you into making the fuel suction system for us......is there any chance you would be willing to make a specific listing of ALL items needed to make this project. Maybe even best place to find the items, Home Depot, etc. I know I'm not the only one interested in this project. Your photos are great by the way.

Speaking of CO detectors, I got the best one out there for boats this Christmas, at least that is what I've read about it. It's the "CO Experts Model 2004" from www.aeromedix.com I plan on running the generator on the rear swim step after installing a couple eye bolts to hold it down.

John

thataway · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject:

Definately do not run the genset in the cockpit--I agree that the Aero-medix CO detector is the best for the boat--even though they say not for marine use. This relates to potential corrosion issues. If you treat this like a precision instrument it will serve you well.

One issue with the fuel transfer--is the the pump/gravity feed will not pull fuel over a foot or so on the Honda--and I think would not work well in the TC 255. We put the 6 gallon tank on the swim step or on the aft seat and the generator on the aft swim step. (see the Thataway album).

I have seen several of the Glacier Bay Honda EU 2000i boxes. Initially I wanted to either get one, or build one. But they are fairly heavy. There is enough water over the swim step under various circumstances, that I would not leave the generator there, even in the box. You still have to open the box to start the engine--and then either put in a port for the external tank or just use the built in tank.

Bob Austin

Rooster 27509 · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:30 pm Post subject:

We have the EU2000 and it works out great for the boat the camper and the motorhome ( as a back up unit). Plus what with living in earthquake country it just might be good to have a little back up power for the home refrigerator.
YES SIZE WILL MATTER
Jim Beer

Dreamer · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:54 pm Post subject:

The 2000ei is the way to go for sure. If you can get by on 1400w. PM me for a good deal on a 1400w Kawasaki. (cheap). The 200ei from Wise Sales runs everything we take along, and it's handy at home too.

John S · Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject:

Ok, I'm sold the EU2000 it is.

Thanks for all the great input and ideas.

Bob, where did you mount your CO monitor on your Tomcat?

John

thataway · Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject:

John,
I have two CO moniters. One is by the helm seat--it is a Kiddie Night Hawk. The CO experts is kept by my head at the bunk.

Bob Ausitn

Seeker · Joined: 08 Mar 2005 Posts: 79

Living in Ketchikan where rain is measured in feet not inches. I'm wondering where to run the small generator. I see pictures of some gennys running on transomes and motor wells, but does anyone have a soulution for running one in the rain?

Thanks,
Law

lloyds · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:59 am Post subject:

I have an EU2000 and wouldn't have any problem leaving it out in the rain. I wouldn't expect a problem. The plastic case pretty much covers the critical components. They are pretty tough.