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Swee Pea



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just located the website for the Wave Box AC/DC mini microwave: www.thewavebox.com

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John-


Thanks for the link!

Wave Box Original:



The technical information on power consumption and output can be found on the PDF file and are as follows:

"The WaveBox® Original is our ABS plastic shell version
designed for the ultimate in lightweight portability
in a durable case. Main features include a reinforced
lightweight ABS plastic shell, our retractable AC cord
system, a removable extra long DC direct to battery
cable with “alligator” clamps, a removable extra long
DC power outlet cable, no-slip rubberized legs, heavy
duty luggage quality handle system, integrated re-
movable soft-sided cooler, preset cooking times for
both AC and DC cooking, digital display, and elevated
cooking rack for popcorn.
Shell ...................................Reinforced ABS plastic
BaSe ...............................................Rubber footings
exterior Width ............................................15”
exterior depth ............................................10”
exterior height...........................................11”
Cooking Cavity Width ................................10”
Cooking Cavity depth ..................................7”
Cooking Cavity height ................................6”
net Weight ................................................14 lbs
Color .................................................As requested
voltage ....................................................120v AC; 12v or 24v DC
Wattage ....................................................660w AC/Direct Connect
175w Vehicle Power Outlet
retraCtaBle aC Cord length .............................................3’
dC direCt ConneCt Cord length .....................................10’
with alligator clamps
dC poWer outlet Cord length ..........................................8’





The Heavy Duty version (above) is the same with a more rugged external cover and weighs about 1 lb more.

Looks like a usable unit, about 10 lbs less than the average small microwave, with about the same output (The 660 w listed above is probably imput wattage, so the output is around 550 watts of heating.)

On a cigarette lighter adapter, the limited current and wattage (175 w) would equal very slow cooking/heating.

The external dimensions are smaller than the typical small microwave, good for storage, but limiting cooking space inside.

It doesn't say so, but since the unit runs off 120 v AC, 12 v DC, or 24 v DC, it must have a power converter of some kind inside.

My guess is that it would be good for the ultimate space saver applications, but for most folks, a larger, heavier microwave, with an inverter would be a better fit for real cooking.

For the space conscious boaters, I especially like the installation mentioned above in Best Day's earlier post where the microwave is mounted overheaad in the galley in what is otherwise unused space in the cabin.



Joe.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John - good detective work.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We just fired up the Honda 1000 today and tried the 700 watt microwave we picked up last summer at WallyWorld -- overload dagnabit! Crook Oh well, it'll still recharge the batteries if needed...or a light or coffee maker maybe if --- I should say WHEN we lose power again for a few days.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CatyMae n Steve: I have been trying to decide on the inverter vs. generater. I just want to micro some leftovers. I have a spare 700 watt microwave oven that I used at my last job. That would be my luck that a 1000 geny wouldn't get it going. I am not interested in adding the weight, space, complexity and $$ for a house battery.

With your microwave. Maybe you could try removing the light bulb? Just maybe it would be enough to let it fire up. Worth a try.

The inverter needs to be close to the battery and yet kept dry with plenty of cooling ventilation space. And I am not sure how long it would run until the group 24 battery needs recharged. I am not sure if you can run the main engine at the same time as the inverter to help out or not. Anybody, will this damage the engine charging system? I suppose I could double my batteries for more power if needed. I have a 15H.P. rope start kicker that charges so getting stranded is slim.

Here is an inverter I thought about trying. Some stuff I like: It would fit in the starboard cockpit storage. Just need to keep it dry or remove when not used. 3 ft. cables included. Soft Start technology. 1500cont/3500 watt surge. 2 year warranty. (On sale until Tuesday)

http://www.donrowe.com/inverters/gosocket_1500.html

One more thing I have been thinking about. Running one of those ceramic heaters with a generater. I would stick it in the anchor locker and sleep real good and warm. Seems like a 1000 gen would run one on low (750 watts). Once the boat gets warm and the thermostat kicks on and off the eco throttle would run on economy. Rivaling the wallas for efficiency and heat on your feet. Anybody got any reports on using the ceramic heaters?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if removing the lightbulb would do anything...Steve thinks it's the initial draw that kills it....because it's immediate that the overload light comes on and the microwave shuts down instantly after that light comes on. I think we'll have to think about an inverter...or skip the nukes Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. The microwave overloads -- but does the generator die, slow, etc?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we didn't leave the generator on after we heard it slow way down and noted the red overload light...then tried it once more to make sure because we had it on econo mode the first time -- but it did the same thing...Steve had his hands in place and pulled the cord as soon as he saw the overload light come on again...I thought I'd seen that someone was able to run the 700 watt microwave with the Honda 1000..that's why I bought them..but they won't go to waste Smile -- we'll put the microwave in the travel trailer we'll get when we retire and the generator back in the boat Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The yamaha 1000 can surge up to 2700 watts for 3 seconds to start heavy loads. Here is a link to the stats.

http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=29&products_id=481&osCsid=8293b916f3a5443d342cf1a2bedd3d65

I could not find any info that shows the honda 1000 surging past max output of 1000 watts.
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