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ORCA
Joined: 19 Oct 2006
Posts: 123
City/Region: germany
C-Dory Year: 2001
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: ORCA
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 Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject: Its getting a joke.... |
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Hi
Well, the cape cruiser factory guys where just playing a game with us for 2 weeks. 
So, we decide not to buy a cape cruiser anymore.
If we find a C-Dory 22 till end of december we will use it for our 2007 expedition.
If we don't find a 22 for any reason till end of december, we then will use a Mac Gregor ... 
We just don't have any time anymore to waste on the boat issue, because thats just a little portion of our 2007 exp. planning....
Man, i can tell you guys i am mad like hell...
We lost over 2 weeks for nothing.... 
Regards Chris
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SEA3PO
Joined: 02 Nov 2003
Posts: 1835
City/Region: Chester
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SEA3PO
Photos: SEA3PO
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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I was just looking at the used C-Dory listings....and that 2002 22' C-Dory for $38,000 looks like a real nice deal.... it's not heavily equipped but the price is excellent..... had a single 100hp on it...
Sorry to hear that about the other boat folks..... I guess you can never tell about folks until you talk money....funny what money does to folks.
I think that is one of the reasons we are so loyal to our C-Dory boats...the company is First Class.... the people are what makes the company and we feel more like friends than customers....
Supper boats too !
Joel
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JamesTXSD
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Posts: 7445
City/Region: from island boy to desert dweller
State or Province: AZ
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: "Wild Blue" (sold 9/14)
Photos: Wild Blue
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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OK, I'm probably going to regret responding to this, but... for the majority of folks here, the boat (and specifically the C-Dory) IS the important part of our adventures. It kinda sounded to me like the MacGregor reference was a threat, if someone doesn't help you come up with a boat.
I've had a MacGregor (an X), and it is a good boat... for what it is. While I'm not aware of any recent Mac coming apart in tough conditions, it certainly isn't built like the C-Dory (IMHO). It will motor faster than most other sailboats, but don't expect to see 20 knots on that boat with a load. It sails better than any powerboat... but it is a lightly built/rigged boat, designed for protected water. That's not a bad thing, it's just important to understand the design goals and expected usage for any boat.
Your budget, as I recall, was around $32k. There are several 22s listed here that are less than $38k. Perhaps it's time to rethink the budget so you can get the best boat that will be appropriate for your mission? If you truly think time spent selecting the best boat could be time wasted, consider how this expedition would go without a boat.
Good luck with this project.
Best wishes,
Jim B.
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ORCA
Joined: 19 Oct 2006
Posts: 123
City/Region: germany
C-Dory Year: 2001
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: ORCA
Photos: ORCA
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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I don't say searching for the right boat is wasting time.
i meant we don't have time left, thats different. 
Well 32k is long ago of the table. We are willing to pay more, but not for a naked boat without anything. 
Any offer...???
Prices are way up for boats now, don't know why...
Mac Gregor is not a bad boat, but you are right, its not at all a dory...
I am used to self made boats and folding kayaks so i am not afraid to take a MG , but would prefer a c-dory...
If all goes wrong, i will build my own boat again...
But that would be a pain in the b... 
Regards Chris |
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Sneaks
Joined: 06 Jun 2004
Posts: 2020
City/Region: San Diego (Encinitas)
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: C-Brat
Photos: Jenny B and C-Brat
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| yukonchris wrote: | I don't say searching for the right boat is wasting time. i meant we don't have time left If all goes wrong, i will build my own boat again... But that would be a pain in the b...
Regards Chris |
Seems to me if time is of the essence, building a boat would be totally out of the question. Used C-Dorys come up for sale all the time. Some well equipped, some with old but certainly serviceable equipment. With a good hull you're gonna spend the same for electronics as you would on a new one. As far as power, you may get lucky but you may have to spring for a repower. Again, with the right hull at a fair price, you're still good to go at less than new. Ain't nobody, least of all relatively small manufacturers, gonna "comp" you a ride. If C-Dory did, I personally would expect El and Bill to be the most deserving recipients. They have a track record, they are always pro C-Dory, and their web site has brought countless Brats and Brat hopefuls into the fold. I think they got free hats and jackets though.
As for this Brat site, maybe their major contributor will share a little product with you if you come to SBS. How 'bout it nephew Pat, a beer for the intrepid Chris?
Don
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SEA3PO
Joined: 02 Nov 2003
Posts: 1835
City/Region: Chester
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SEA3PO
Photos: SEA3PO
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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I think a C-Dory would be a wise choice....as you see they have a super resale value...so after you are finished you could recoop most of your investment..(easy to sell). the depreciation on a C-Dory is far less than that of almost any other boat out there.... Plus it is a GREAT boat.
Joel
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Jazzmanic
Joined: 07 Feb 2005
Posts: 2231
City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Chris, you gotta go C-Dory! It's the only way to go!!!
Peter |
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BrentB
Joined: 15 Jul 2006
Posts: 4419
City/Region: Greenwood
State or Province: IN
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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just a fyi
Three Rivers Marine in Florida has a 2006 23' Cape Cruiser taken on trade, 135 Honda w/73.5 hrs, shorepower, frige, windlass, trim tabs, swim platform, Garmin color GPS, Sounder, VHF radio, Bimini top, snap-on curtains, screens, carpet, dual batteries, ss prop, all standard features, warranty, $49,500.
Contact Mike at sales@threeriversmarineinc.com
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Alasgun
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:47 pm Post subject: It's getting a Joke |
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I sure hope I don't regret this, but I cant resist. Chris sit back and read some of your posts! Do you see all the emotion portrayed in them? I can imagine the most eloquent salesperson being tested while trying to sell you a boat!
It appears to me that you are either unsure of what you want or unable to afford what you want in which case building might be a good option.
Remember that we are here for the fellowship, insight and humor and for the most part not interested in breaking the only rule.
Plop down your money, buy a C-dory and become one of us and in time you will find this to be a great place. You will also discover far greater treasures here than any amount of river miles will provide!
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Captains Cat
Joined: 03 Nov 2003
Posts: 7313
City/Region: Cod Creek>Potomac River>Chesapeake Bay
State or Province: VA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Captain's Choice II
Photos: Captain's Cat
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Something fishy here....
Stinks a little...
Shades of the past... 
charlie
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BrentB
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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003
Posts: 8553
City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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Chris - Liberty Call at $38,000 would be an EXCELLENT choice...
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barefoot
Joined: 11 Apr 2006
Posts: 52
City/Region: St. Johns River
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Altered Attitudes
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| Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:46 am Post subject: |
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What about this thread am I missing? Here are C-D22 listings from our for sale column that are near, in, or under that budget:
C-Dorys For Sale
2002 22 Cruiser, $34,000 (St. Augustine, FL)
2000 22 Cruiser, $37,000 (Bremerton, WA)
1999 22 Cruiser, $33,500 (Naples, FL)
1987 22' Angler, $20,000 (Bellevue, WA)
1987 22 Cruiser, $24,900 (Midway, UT)
I've seen the one in St. Augustine and it has more gear aboard than I could even identify. |
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ORCA
Joined: 19 Oct 2006
Posts: 123
City/Region: germany
C-Dory Year: 2001
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: ORCA
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| Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:27 am Post subject: |
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@Alasgun
I do know exactly what i want... 
Well, if the salesman don't want 50K, then it is his problem not mine. I sure would work to get 50 k and not sending confusing mails, and never answer questions, sending close to blank contract to sign...
I am sure you would not sine a contract witch just state the Motor and boat without detailed extra list........ 
Than sending a new contract still most stuff missing and with cheaper electronics and so on....
@ barefoot
Thanks i send some mails out...
@sneaks
Well, let me get one thing right, we never wanted a boat for free.....
@Captains Choice
Welcome in the real world....
@Brent
One thing is for sure, we wont even think to take a Cape Cruiser anymore....
Regards chris |
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Alasgun
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| Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:43 am Post subject: It's getting a joke |
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It is getting to be somewhat of a joke but I've made it through a 3 week hitch and am headed home today.
My last week here I was on nights and discovered that you guys go to bed pretty early! Many nights I was the only brat with a light on. 
I think yuconchris must have solved his boat dilemma too. I went to his site to see what he was all about and stumbled onto his 2007 expedition schedule. I don't read German but from the gist of it it looks like his trip will be in that Cape Cruiser, or maybe not?
Any way I'm tired, thanks for another great week of entertainment and best wishes to all in Dorydom.
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