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james
Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 126 City/Region: CRYSTAL RIVER
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:16 am Post subject: shifting for outboards |
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This being my first outboard,( had I/O's before) what is the consensus on shifting in and out of gear. Slow grindy or fast and thud?
James _________________ "Beware of the man with no weaknesses, he is not to be trusted." Lin Yutang, The Importance of Living. |
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Captains Cat
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 7313 City/Region: Cod Creek>Potomac River>Chesapeake Bay
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Ouch Either one hurts to think about. Slow and "grindy" isn't good but if you do it fast, and it goes "thud", I'd check your idle speed. It might make a little noise but shouldn't make much.
Charlie _________________ CHARLIE and PENNY CBRAT #100
Captain's Cat II 2005 22 Cruiser
Thataway (2006 TC255 - Sold Aug 2013)
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colobear
Joined: 23 Jan 2005 Posts: 2154 City/Region: Denver
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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When I first got our 22' I began a practice of shifting gently and was told (by no less an authority than Les) to just go from neutral to gear quickly _________________ Patti and Barry
formerly C-Cakes, now
rving around N. America |
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lloyds
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 1724 City/Region: sublimity
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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"crisp" movement into gear. No grinding. Can't bear the thought of the grinding. Reminds me of my first dentist when I was a kid, had a foot operated treadle. Excruciating. And no, that wasn't before fire was invented. |
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Captains Cat
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 7313 City/Region: Cod Creek>Potomac River>Chesapeake Bay
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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What is "fire"??
Charlie |
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Sneaks
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Captains Choice wrote: | What is "fire"??
Charlie |
'Sa matter, Charlie? Those Hickory choppers bothering you again? You should'a followed Dusty's advice and use White Oak or Teak. |
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Mighty Bite
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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"Brisk"! _________________ Mark on Mighty Bite |
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Jeff and Julie
Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 287 City/Region: Juneau, AK
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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We have no noise on our outboard. We can hardly tell when it goes into gear.
Jeff and Julie |
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Adeline
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Brisk is good. So is crisp. Another is deliberate. Grinding is bad. One note, shifting into gear(F or R) shouldn't be done if the motor isn't running unless you manually rotate the prop. _________________ Pete
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CAVU
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Pete,
I had not heard this before. What problems can it cause? I have twin 40HP Hondas and I often shift the inside throttle forward out of the way when I am trolling with one engine. This allows me to sit sideways and watch the downriggers without bumping the trim switch on the inside throttle. I hope I haven't been causing any harm to the engine? Any thoughts on this. _________________ Ken Trease
22 CD Cruiser, CAVU
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Adeline
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 985 City/Region: Vancouver
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Fear not Ken, If you're trolling then your prop(motor off) will be spinning. However, if your boat is sitting on the trailer and you want to place it in gear for some reason, you should rotate your prop as you do this. A quick search of "shifting" @ I-Boats produced some interesting hits. Here's one http://forums.iboats.com/bbBoard.cgi?a=viewthread;fid=28;gtid=670079 |
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Dora~Jean
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Ken, I'm not familiar with all controls but my Yamaha shift controls have a 'gear lockout' button to disable the gearshift so that you can work the throttle out of gear. I use that to keep the port shifter out of the way while at anchor (engine off). _________________ Steve & Carmen
"Great works are performed not by strength, but perseverance" (Samuel Johnson)
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SeaSpray
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:35 am Post subject: |
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I came across the answer to this on some site a few weeks back. Apparently if you shift slowly and when you hear the clicking noise you are wearing some part. It seems that it would be some type of clutch.
So like everyone else I now shift in and out of gear crisply.
Steve |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:49 am Post subject: |
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I replaced the shift dogs in an old Johnson 18 hp outboard years ago. Was a lot of fun!!! If you want to read about how shift dogs work and go through their replacement procedure, read down into the article in this LINK.
Pandora's Box of Shift Dogs:
Joe. _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
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tpbrady
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:47 am Post subject: |
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I go fast and don't hear anything.
By the way Joe, what haven't you done on a boat? _________________ Tom
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