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Do you normally set your fishfinder to display fish symbols?
No - I prefer the sonar-defined ticks and arches.
41%
 41%  [ 35 ]
Yes - The ticks are difficult to discern, and the "arches" don't show up very often.
7%
 7%  [ 6 ]
Yes - I like the little fishy pictures.
51%
 51%  [ 43 ]
Total Votes : 84

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Patrout



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Dusty,

You did it again. I think I can start fiddling with my new (to me) Garmin 188C to tune it to find fish and bait schools for me now. I've heard if I get the settings right and all the conditions are right, I can even spot schools of shrimp, too.

Why don't the guys who make these things just hire you to write parts of their manuals for them?

Pat
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Sawdust



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Pat -

Your 188C is a very good unit and will definitely see schools (huh? Clouds? Swarms? Ooohhhh) of shrimp. Mine did at 300 ft. -- and we get all those great spots we need at/below that depth in our area. When the Wash. Dept. of Fisheries allows, that is. Evil or Very Mad

Cheap and dirty test I used to use - drop a 3 oz. banana sinker on a line under the boat (gotta be clean water) - follow it down on the finder - then keep peaking the finder for max sensitivity. Huge surprise to find out how far down you can see that little chunk of lead if you are properly tuned. On these newer little tinker toys we use I'm not sure you can open them up and do much adjusting. Still miss my old paper chart machines.

Dusty

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Patrout



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dusty,

Now ya' got me goin'! I'll have that new Ace pot puller and 450 feet of sinking line along with a couple of nice little weights to keep the rig on the bottom. They say it's about 300 feet down in the Prince William Sound for the big boys, too.

Alaska lets us shrimp all season long. We don't even need a permit to do it this year. (We did before, but it was free.) All we need is the boat reg number on our float. The main problem, from what I hear, is pot thieves. It probably pays to stay nearby when the pots are down.

Say, can you identify the clouds of shrimp by the way they show up on the screen? Or do you kind of have to tell by how they move?

Thanks again,
Pat
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Sawdust



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat,

Pretty much like real estate - location, location. Appearance too - but when I see a cloud at +/- 300 ft, on a slope and near rocks -- that's where I drop the pot.

The fun part is trying to judge current. I put a waypoint over the "shrimp" herd, then estimate the lead I need to put the pot on the waypoint. Amazing how far you can miss!!

Nothing but jealous of your year-round open season. If we had a season like that here I'd have to borrow one of Pat Byrd's belts Wink Wink

Pot pirates aren't excusive to AK! I stay around my pots - and a soak time of an hour or so will usually get me a limit, so bottom fish the area is time well spent!

Good luck,

Dusty
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Sea Wolf



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Dusty!

Whaty do you think of color video fishfinders, in general?

I've got an older Eagle unit that I've never rerally been able to use/interpret very well, so have just used a newer HumminBird LCR unit instead.

Joe.

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Sawdust



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Joe -

The older I get the more I like color! Have a neat little Humminbird unit with two heads, one color, one mono. The color unit wins big-time. I can see it clearly in any light and keep the other unit for backup. The color scale showing signal strength of a return is a big help too... when I get a red arch I've gotta pop a pill Wink

Bottom line - go color!

Dusty
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dusty-

Thanks, I'll invest some more time learning how to use the unit.

"Bottom line"-- isn't that the name of one brand of FF?

Joe.
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gljjr



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just as a simple excercise I used the Lowrance emulator to try to show the difference...







Also, after playing with a Lowrance 337c last Sunday on the Tulalip Bubble I agree with Dusty, Color is the ONLY way to go!

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Sawdust



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gary!

Don't do that again. Glory be -- my pulse just went off scale seeing those beautiful arches. Oooooohhhhhh.

Dusty
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually saw 1 or 2 arches like that on Sunday. But nothing like the number on the demo! Sure would love to see that though!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The technical talk was great (and helpful)...but besides just liking the fishy pictures, I set my Lowrance GPS/DEPTH and FISH FINDER on the "song" setting. With different sized echoes producing different songs (bigger echoes - lower tunes), one can get a symphony if there are a lot of fish (or whatever is there). Besides, when ever a "song" plays, every- one yells "FISH!!".
therevdr on DRIFTWOOD DREI

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My apologies to the real fishermen!!
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