New to site and looking for recomendations

spurs101 · Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 6

Hi - I'm new to the site and spend most of my time on Lake Michigan. Current owner of center council set up for Great Lakes trolling. While casually browsing around for possible upgrade , I stumbled upon C-Dory and found this maybe what I'm looking for. I'm real interested on how she would take the Great Lakes water. For those Great Lakes people, you know the lakes can get quite nasty. The 19 Angler looks to be the most interesting to me.
Any comments on suitability and recommended set-ups for those that own a 19.
Thanks - and of course would be interested to communicate with anyone willing to part with a 19 Very Happy

Chuck S · Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 4:22 pm Post subject:

I like the looks of the 19 Angler too. Not sure which side of the lake you're on but Door County Boat Works may have a 19 Angler coming in if not in stock.

AK Angler · Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 5:53 pm Post subject:

spurs101 · Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 6

Hey - Thanks for reply - on west side outside of Racine - relocated from upstate New York ten years ago and had a camp on Onterio just a mile west of the the Little Salmon - spent every free moment on the water out there. Prior to relocation lived on west side of Michigan and Racine was home port. Fished all the lakes except St Clair. If the 16 can take Eries chop and not getting pounded to death perhaps the 19 could fill the bill. My wife and I fish alot together (she's a better fisher(person)than most of the fisherman I've fished with). Don't need to be a rocket, but 10 to 12 miles off shore is not uncommon in August. I don't want to spend all day getting there and back. So what do you think. I prefer fishing space to "other space". How do I power and outfit. Very Happy

Chuck S · Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 10:54 pm Post subject:

The 19 Angler has the Vee-berth of the 22 Cruiser, but it's behind a semi solid bulkhead, rather than out in the open like the 16 Cruiser. Semi solid meaning a canvas flap, not a companionway door. The 16 Cruiser's lil' dinette is useful as a chart table and can seat two.

-- Chuck

Da Nag · Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 11:31 pm Post subject:

wilbe asea · Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:05 am Post subject:

I think if you have the time and money to order new from factory through your boat dealer, you should do so. I did, ordered the tall cabin, which for my six foot frame and tall friends that I have find it woderful that we do not have to worry about hitting our heads on the cabin, just on the door. Crook

I also added hydraulic steering, and after being in some rough water for a couple of hours sometimes, wonder how I would have held up without it.

jdoskoch · Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 29 City/Region: Charlevoix, MI

I am also new here (first post). Do not own a C-D yet, but am thinking about a 22. I first admired the Dory living in Sitka, AK from 91 to 95. Have had contact with Door County dealer since I am across the big lake in Charlevoix, MI. I am wondering how much sleeping room there is in the 22 since we plan to occasionally overnight. We are a family of 4, 2 kids ages 5 and 9. Also, I'm a big fishing fan, and I'm also wanting to know if trolling is feasible/practical on twin 40 Hondas, the set up I'd prefer.

Thanks for any comments.

Sea Wolf · Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 3:12 pm Post subject:

jdoskoch- With the exception of the much larger 25, the 22 Cruiser is the best family boat. It's larger dinette, larger galley, and larger enclosed cabin make it both wife and child friendly. You and your wife can both sleep up in the v-berth, and possibly sleep the two kids on the convertible berth made up from the dinette, if they can sleep at opposite ends with overlapping feet. Otherwise, one can sleep on the floor with an air matress which will sooner or later be necessary anyway.

As for the trolling with the twin 40's, most people troll with only one engine which brings the speed down to (I'm guessing here) about 1.5 mph. Any slower and you'll have to use a trolling plate or some other drag inducing system. A trolling plate can get you down to about 0.5 mph if necessary.

HTH. Good Luck! Joe.

wilbe asea · Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:13 am Post subject:

My wife and I have only had our boat for a year, a 22' cruiser, but have spent quite a few nights on it, wished we had got started years sooner. We have slept four before, which works ok if one is a seven year old granddaughter, a daughter of diminutive stature, and a normal sized wife. Those three took up the the v-berth while I slept on the galley berth. That was ok for overnight, but for trips that may be four or five days, as we sometimes take into Prince William Sound or Kachemak Bay, it could get quite close. Our water is quite cold, so extra insulation in the form of extra sleeping bags against the hull is a must, which helps to crowd the space.

I troll with twin forties, both down with only one running, get as slow as 2.1 knots. May have to go to a more powerful prop (less speed) to get slower, or a trolling plate.

jdoskoch · Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 29 City/Region: Charlevoix, MI

Looking at a 2001 CD 22 cruiser on a dealer's lot. This boat was purchased from a defunct dealer and has never had an owner, I am told. It does look like new. My questions are, has anything changed since 2001 when comparing to a 2004 model? Anyone recall what MSRP was for the boat in 2001? We are contemplating an offer.
The side windows
seem to be stuck closed.
Are they typically tempermental?

Thanks.

Pat Anderson · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:22 am Post subject:

Can't address the fishing part, but sleeping is my specialty! The 22 can really only comfortably sleep 2 adults in the vee-birth (unless you are a REAL close family!) and one child in the cabin with the dinette folded down. However, with a camperback, a second child (or both children) could easily sleep in the cockpit with foam pads and sleeping bags. I have thought a few times about a folding cot that would fit cross-wise in the cockpit for our 12 year old. We are cruisers rather than fishermen, and the most enjoyable upgrade we have made has been the camperback, it just makes the whole boat a lot more roomy, that cabin got pretty cramped at night with three people aboard before adding the camperback...

The SIDE WINDOWS! Ah, yes, everyone's first encounter with them leaves a lasting impression! They are most likely not stuck! You press the window latch handle FORWARD first to disengage it, then press the lever down to to lift it free before you can slide the window back. Some family members still struggle with this, I am almost able to do it with one hand now most of the time!

Da Nag · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:36 am Post subject:

jimandlaurie · Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:47 am Post subject:

I ditto the window thing. I wa frustrated as most have been until I learned to push a little forward,like closing it then pushing in on the pivot part then pulling it open.

As for value, and model changes. Don't think that they were big differences on the models. Values? I think that in tracking the hull price last couple years it goes up a little bit around $600-$800. Being a "new" boat sounds like it might be a pretty good deal.
Jim

wilbe asea · Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:03 am Post subject:

On the window thing, be sure to push forward before pushing in on the catch, works lots better that way.

Another problem of water in the bow was the drain for the anchor rode locker would allow water into the locker when in seas of two or so feet or more. A poor seal between the locker and the hull would allow water to seep under the v-berth. When I spoke with the C-Dory folks about this, they sent me a brass tube and some caulk. I drilled out the hole to accept the tube and carefully applied the caulk. Took about twenty minutes, including rounding up all the tools, doing the work and putting away the tools. The factory would have done it or had the dealer do it, but I live 180 miles from the dealer and 2000 from Kent. WA. Other than that it has been a great experience having a C-Dory, a 22 footer.