C-Ranger influence?

Da Nag · Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:40 pm Post subject: C-Ranger influence?

Looks like C-Dory has a few extra Yanmars sitting around...

Pat Anderson · Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: C-Ranger influence?

Hmm...in Kent?

DaveS · Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: C-Ranger influence?

SEA3PO · Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:42 pm Post subject:

Boy wouldn't that be KOOL..... a 22 cruiser with about 100 hp. Yanmar inboard outdrive.....sign me up for one.... I have a 30ho Yanmar on my tug and it is by far the best engine I have ever had.... it just does everything well, and what I love best is that I never have to worry about problems...it starts easy, runs and runs and runs....also uses almost no diesel...1qt. an hour.. slow but always gets me there and back.

Joel
SEA3PO and KEA

Sawdust · Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject:

Joel,

sounds great! Can I take your statement to my banker? He things the C-Ranger looks like a bathtub toy Rolling Eyes

Dusty

DaveS · Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject:

SEA3PO · Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 4:46 pm Post subject:

I trully would never be afraid of bad water in the tug.... it is slow so it might have a rough time with swift current, but it rides so well and feels so solid I know it is safe... Toy ?? OK I guess...it is.. it's fun and before the C-Dory I had planned on taking long trips with it... slow long trips... still might... once I retire it from working.

Joel
SEA3PO and tug KEA

Sea Wolf · Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:08 pm Post subject:

That CD-22 (25?) might be really nice with the Yanmar moved up in the middle of the cockpit so that the weight would not be all in the stern for better balance, and one could better fish over the transom?

Maybe a jackshaft would be in order? How about a jackshaft and a Hamilton Jet Drive? (Gary?)

Dusty- The first time I saw the C-Ranger 21 I thought it looked like a "Toy Tug" best suited for touring the harbor on Sunday afternoon with a brew in one hand!

Kind of like a Duffy! Check this out-

http://www.duffyboats.com/

Of course, I could tell it was well made, but it just looked to small to be a real open water boat. Gets labeled with the "cute" comments from all the "yachties"!

Joel-

I thought you were a "Retired Auto Shop Teacher"?

So now you're talking about when you retire from your diving business?

Or--what's your next career...............?

**************************

Joe

SEA3PO · Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:32 pm Post subject:

It's been my summer job for the last 10 or 12 years.... I do heavy underwater lift... big stuff...anchors that weigh a ton, sometimes more...they are used with log booms, and dock anchors... I install docks, anchors and chain....lots of chain... every summer I usually get about 4 or 5 sinkers.... mostly ski boats with big engines.... filled with drunks that backed off to fast and took a big wave over the stern.... its fun.. and takes some skill.. boats are real fragile when they are filled with water.... I only work on Lake Almanor....and use the tug to move logs, and anchors...fun stuff..
Lots of scuba time..

Joel
SEA3PO

Sawdust · Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:58 pm Post subject:

Joe,

Agree about the looks, but there are about 600 of these little guys around -- from my very limited experience it will go anywhere a 22 CD would go. Basic design is from a Bristol Bay fishing boat. Slow, sure is, but we've been cruising at 9-10 knots and that's really not bad - and this old cheap guy sure likes 10 nmpg! Got to agree, on the long trips like from here to Ucleulet 10 knots is pokey - but for the shrimp/crab salmon trips just a few more minutes to enjoy the underway fun.

With any luck mine should be here next Tuesday, and then the installation fun begins!! Of course Les may never speak to me again. Laughing

Dusty

gljjr · Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject:

Hey Joe!

I was SERIOUSLY thinking of doing exactly that on my 27'. But when I talked with the guys at Hamilton they told me that it would have cavitation problems due to the flat bottom Sad

I still don't understand why. But that is what they told me. I'm still tempted to though. I found a used older Hamilton pump for sale that would fit the bill nicely. The biggest problem is that I just don't have enough time to get the work done so I would have to spend a bunch of boat bucks to have a shop do the work.

I've also thought about the Jackshaft. But to do that I would need to pull up the whole floor and remount the tanks. And I have thought about that too. But again. More boat bucks than I can spend right now. Sad

SEA3PO · Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:31 pm Post subject:

I agree...that would be the trick with a 27' .... Originally my tug had a 2 cylinder Yanmar.... I pulled that and installed a 30hp 3 cylinder...that I rebuilt....really sold me on Yanmars....neat motors.. I also added 19" to the back of my deck house as the cabin was to small....I still have a large working deck... making the tug perfect for diving.

Captains Cat · Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject:

SEA3PO · Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject:

I don't understand why it would cause cavitation..... we had Hamilton drives on our river barges in the navy.... and they worked just fine.... maybe they think the stern bobs out of the water...
The idea of having a 4 cylinder turbo diesel mounted midships really interreges me....kinda like Joe said with a jack shaft.... economy, power and range...plus I love the reliability.... I just look at my Yanmar and say start and it does.... and purrs all day long, never misses a beat.
The 100hp turbo diesel is not that large either... plus it would really make ya scoot...

gljjr · Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:35 pm Post subject:

I don't understand the cavitation problem either. But I'm not sure I want to cut a 10" x 12" hole in the bottom of the boat and end up finding out they are right. Shocked

Plus, if I were to pick up this used drive I found I'm not sure a Vortec V6 would be enough power. I might have to go with a V8 if I go to the pump. And that would mean removing the tanks and floor and redo everything. Right now I just want to get it running and in the water...