Used 16 Angler

rigger173 · Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 9:59 pm Post subject: Used 16 Angler

I finally found a 16 Angler in my area (Rhode Island).
I have wanted one for a couple of years, but checking every day on the internet
all I found was old, beat, non marine grade modifications, high hour outboards,
all on the west coast.
Lucky me, on Craigslist I met with a great guy in Connecticut, 90 miles away, with a second owner 2004 Angler with a 50 HP honda with 50 hours.
Not modified, just old wiring, (From the factory, kind of messy).
16000 bucks, another 3000 in new wiring and honda dealer checkout and servicing of the motor,new fuel tanks and lines, and about another 2000 in
seats, and other things a 20 year old boat needs.
Just thought I would pass on my little project.

chieftele · Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:30 pm Post subject:

Congratulations! I’ve had my 16 Angler, “Rosebud” for 12 years now and love it! I mostly fish Sierra lakes with it, but have had it in the ocean too. I’m of course always cautious with weather, but have always felt safe in my 16, even in 4’ waves on Tahoe. Enjoy!

rigger173 · Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 9:53 pm Post subject:

Brad, how much fuel do you have on board?
I want to install 2 12 gallon tanks in the rear, and move the 2 batteries into the cuddy cabin.
Is 24 gallons of gas too much weight wise?
Any people who know about the 16 angler and these kind of questions would really help a new c dory 16 owner

Schuster · Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 11:11 am Post subject:

Congratulations for finding the boat you've been looking for. I've not owned a 16 before but have owned several Olympic boats along the way, one of which was a 16' and I believe it had a 70hp on it. I guess I have more questions than answers for you and maybe food for thought. To start with the batteries and the cabin. Do you plan on overnighting in the cabin? If so what are you going to do to ventilate the battery compartment? I personally do not prefer to sleep in a small space with batteries stowed there.
Weight wise may be somewhat of a wash, 24 gallons of gas weight approximately 192 lbs, which would replace two group 24 batteries combined weight is roughly 90 lbs combined with the existing 12 gallons of fuel at 96 lbs = (90 + 96) 186lbs. So you've only increased stern weight by 6 lbs. Counter that by moving the batteries forward and you have effectively increased bow weight by approximately 90 lbs. A fair amount of weight to add forward but given that it is not going to be at the tip of the bow probably still doable.
Another question i have, given that the 50hp Honda is a relatively fuel efficient motor to run, why would you need so much fuel? Having empty or partially full tanks encourages water buildup in the tanks, having full tanks adds to energy needed to move that weight.
Have you considered rather than going to all this effort and expense to modify your boat to {1} Use it as is until you can determine your long term fuel needs and (2) Carry a spare 6 gallon portable gas tank that can be moved out of the cutty cabin at night and stored outside. Good luck with you new project.

rigger173 · Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:35 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the info Dave.
I have the Angler C dory 16, so the batteries in the cuddy cabin is pretty much all the cabin is good for (Storage)
The reason I would like to have 2 12 gallon tanks is that it will be in the water at a slip all summer, and my marina has no fuel facilities.
Also, it is good to know I have plenty of fuel no matter what happens.
I have a nice marine grade brass 2 way valve, honda quick disconnects on each tank, plumbed to a water separator/filter.
Also, I bought a new Honda 2.3 outboard for a spare motor. the 2.3 has a 1 liter
internal fuel tank that lasts about 40 minutes a tank.Trying to pour gas in an outboard at sea is always messy, so I plan to have 4 1 liter fuel bottles in a milk crate between the 2 12 gallon tanks.
So that is my plan, I hope I don't get blown up.

chieftele · Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2024 11:20 pm Post subject:

For what it’s worth, I have had only a couple days where I’ve actually burned through a whole 6 gallon tank. 2 - 12 gallon tanks is gonna slow your 16 down a lot. # of passengers and amount of load makes a big difference in these little boats. 2 - 6 gallon tanks gives me plenty of fuel security. I usually just carry one, with a 1 gallon backup can, for local waters anyways.

rigger173 · Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 9:59 pm Post subject:

chieftele,
Thanks for the info on fuel stuff.
I have to ask, how did you acquirer the bimini top that snaps to the cabin top?
Custom local shop or vender?

chieftele · Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:02 am Post subject:

I had it custom made. The cost was actually very reasonable. And it’s been a total game changer for longer days on the water. Highly recommended.

thataway · Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 1:30 pm Post subject:

If you want to transfer fuel to a small kicker like the Honda 2 hp or Suzuki 2.5 hp--use some form of pump, where you can put the hose into the top of the tank and "closed circuit". I have used a "squeeze bulb" for this. An electric pump has too many negatives. This works for Honda Generators also.

Joefairbanks · Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:33 pm Post subject:

I've only had my 16 Angler for a short while, but I can give you an idea of what I do for fuel. Mine came with 2 6 gallon tanks. I have a Honda 50 on this Angler and a 6 horse kicker. My wife and I have made multiple 50-60 mile days with ours. Usually it's the 2 of us, the dog, a cooler, 2 anchors and rode, tools and a few spare parts. We have yet to empty one of the 6 gallon tanks in a day. Average cruise speed is between 18-22 MPH.
I originally thought about getting larger tanks, but I realize that I can't see myself needing more than 12 gallons on the boat. But, I never leave port without both tanks being full.
I love this little boat!

rigger173 · Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:01 pm Post subject:

Thanks to all the 16 anglers help on my new project.
My next concern is the sloppy wiring (20 years old) from the factory.
My boat is 2004.
Has anybody rewired their boat?
I don't want to do it myself because I am lazy and have money to spend the pros to do it.
Any other 16 people dealt with this concern?