Camper tops

[Donald Tyson]

I’ve noticed that many of you have camper tops added to the rear deck area of your boats. This goes pretty much for all sizes. My question is how waterproof is the seal between the camper top and your cabins? Is that rear camper area waterproof enough to have upholstered furniture in?

[thataway]

Most of the Bimini's are made of Sunbrella. This is generally water proof, but does "breath" to some degree. The proper attachment to the cabin top is a vinyl or aluminum awning rail, slotted track and a bolt rope slides into it. There a number of non permeable fabrics which if properly assembled are totally waterproof, but do not breathe and thus are more likely to develop mold because of high humudy on the water. This cabin to Bimini top seal, usually involves zippers and velcro over to make it totally water proof for most rain events. Hurricanes: all fabrics outside come off the boat.

Fabric such as Sunbrella, do fine. Others non marine fabrics do not do as well. See SailRite web site for other materials. Would I leave my living room sofa there? No.

If you are speaking of a full "camper back" Again it depends on materials and how they are made and correctly fitted to the boat. A good camper back may cost upward of $6,000. The canvas maker should fit it for your specific boat and needs. There are many configurations.

[Donald Tyson]

Thank you for the thorough description. I am familiar with Sunbrella and never have I felt it was extremely waterproof but it does OK. 6000+ or minus, wow. I’m in a big long learning curve.

[thataway]

[Donald Tyson]

Impressive. I’ll not sew my own lest they call me the Flapper.

[colbysmith]

Cost depends upon location. I had a full bimini and sides made for under $3000 on a 22. However that was about 10 years ago. For comparison, the same guy has done all my canvas work. That 22 cost around $1400 for a full cover. That was also about 10 years ago. This year I had a new full cover made for my 25. (More material), and the total cost was around $2700. I decided I did not use the side curtians around the bimini enough to make it worth the cost, so I just had a bimini only made for my 25. The 22's cockpit stayed pretty dry in the rain with the full curtains and bimini on. The material was sunbrella. I think that cost was around $1400 two years ago, but I would have to look it up. Colby

[Donald Tyson]

Well Colby I appreciate the first hand testimonial. One must take this into consideration when deciding btwn the Angler and Cruiser hulls. For instance I feel that with a 22 Cruiser I'd be fine with just a Bimini.

[thataway]

Canvas products have increased significantly in price in the last 10 years!!

I had a quote by an excellent canvas worker of $5,500 5 years ago for my CDory 25 which already had a good SS frame. The waiting time was 9 months at that time. There is also a wide variety of quality of seamsters. That is why the canvas worker may keep the boat his shop or visit the boat several times.I have seen good & not so good from King Canvas who used to do most CDory canvas work.

Stainless pipe or double wall SS tubbing is more than 5/8" aluminum tube. clear vinyl costs will be all over the place
Strataglass™ 60 Gauge Vinyl Window Material 54" x 110" Clear is $771 per panel.
comparable 60 gauge is about $66 for similar sheet. the mimum I would consider is 20 gauge roll for that same size would cost about $16!

Tenara® Tex 92 Clear best UV resistant thread is 8 oz for $150, plain Dacron for $15 for 8 oz /7 is much easier to sew with.

Sunbrella is now $39 a running yard 60" wide, you can find acrylic marine fabrics for as $9 a running yard!!

There is even a large spectrum of quality of fabricators and how seams are made and finished.