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KFoote



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:15 pm    Post subject: Great Loop 2023 Reply with quote

I am getting ready to travel the Great Loop beginning mid May as soon as the channel opens.Follow along as I begin to prepare for the great adventure! The biggest question I have right now is how do I carry enough fuel to cover 220 miles?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-P9t3M6gYb-p0V75YPuPBQ

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Keith!

If you have the will, there is a way. The Great Loop has been completed by kayaks and jet skis and paddleboarders as well as at least two CD22 that I know of. We have been doing Segment Loops since 2017 on our TC255 and have completed over 3,000 of the 6000 miles and 200 locks (of the 100 on the official Loop). We had the only trailer boat at the 2022 FMB AGLCA Rendezvous and Looper Boat Crawl, with over 175 visitors (mostly Planners) of the 450 attendees.

Kittiwake:

http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=30775

Salty has completed five loops as of 2021, although due to portages etc he might not qualify strictly for all of them under their rules but who cares? Their budget is the lowest we have ever heard of while still having a geat time.

http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=20968

Storm Dog did about half the Loop just getting his new to him boat home:

http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=28503

If you are not already a member of AGLCA, sign up for the blog and the GREAT option of using Harbor Host helpers. Yes, it’s expensive but well worth it!

https://www.greatloop.org/default.aspx

Sign up for the Trailer Loopers Special Interest Group,

https://www.greatloop.org/members/groups.asp?DGPCrPg=1&DGPCrSrt=4A

The last post is mine, and could well apply to you.

Sign up early for the NY canal system updates to get an idea of ‘problematic’ sections and locks:

https://www.canals.ny.gov/wwwapps/tas/notices/ntm.aspx?id=1743

You might also be interested in, or not interested in, our advice to date from the 2021 Hontoon Hoot:

http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=30573

Assuming you go in the usual counterclockwise direction to take advantage of river flows, that 220 mile section is ‘downstream’ and a few jerry cans may be all you need esp at displacement speeds. See above sites.

We might not ever complete the ‘Loop’, although we’ve done many of the best parts multiple times. To us it’s not ‘The adventure of a lifetime (™), its ‘a lifetime of adventure’.

I predict your greatest obstacle will be your trailer (assuming you have an adequate tow vehicle). Get it near new in all respects including US made Goodyear Endurance tires with a mfg date under 8 weeks (stamped code is wk/yr) and TSP or other really good tire temp/press monitor in cab.

Good that you have lots of time to get everything right before you start. It IS an adventure of a lifetime! But, as always, the Prepared have a lot more fun and fewer emergencies.

PM me anytime, Safe Travels!

John

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on where those 220 miles are. If you're going downstream and not in a hurry, you can go a long way on a tank.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

P.S. I'm wanting to also do the GL in my CD22. Probably can't do it in 2023, but maybe the year after. I will be following along your Youtube channel so I can learn from your mistakes Wink .

Let me know when you are in SW MI. I'm in a town on the big lake.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 220 mile range can be achieved by going slow--5 to 6 miles per hour. The current is with you much of the way, but not all of the way. There is also a fuel stop, where you go up a side canal, and can jerry jug fuel from a gas station near a place where you can pull the C Dory 22 in.

As John noted Jonathan Arthur, on Salty has done the loop 5 + times with a very stock 22. He does have a couple of jerry cans to portage fuel, and does not always buy fuel at marine sources, because of the increased cost on the water.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:50 pm    Post subject: GL Gulfcoast John Reply with quote

John,

Thanks for the great information and links.
I will research them.
I have already joined AGLCA. That is one of the first things I had done to begin planning this trip.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 11:59 pm    Post subject: Great Loop 2023 Reply with quote

ssobol thanks for the shout out.

I'll keep you in mind when I get to Lake Michigan.
For sure follow me on Youtube as I cruise along.
As it gets closer to departure I will begin paying for a subscription to NEBO so you can see where I am at actual time.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:03 am    Post subject: GL 2023 Reply with quote

Bob,

Thanks for the insight. As I studying the route and my past fuel consumption in the Puget Sound. I am thinking I will not need to carry a lot of extra fuel either.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:07 am    Post subject: Great Loop Reply with quote

Hi there Kfoote-

Joe here, down in SF. I too was contemplating the loop next year. Perhaps we will see one another.

I am just beginning my mental preparation for my 1988 22' footer.

I am also wanting to get better connected to the group.

So just saying hi and I haven't figured out yet how to span the fuel issue either!

Joe
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:39 pm    Post subject: Planning on Crusing the Great Loop Reply with quote

Hi Joe,

Thanks for reaching out !

John posted some great links to help us prep for our trip.

You already belong to C-Brats. You should really join AGLCA.
The longest stretches are;
Kimmswick, MO to Paducah 205 miles down the Mississippi River.
The Mississippi runs pretty fast so I am thinking I will not need a lot of extra fuel for that portion.
The second longest stretch is if you decide to cut across the Gulf Coast about 135 miles. I am planning to go along the coast and not cut across.

https://www.greatloop.org/default.aspx
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Planning on Crusing the Great Loop Reply with quote

KFoote wrote:

The second longest stretch is if you decide to cut across the Gulf Coast about 135 miles


I advise most folks to go across, perhaps to the Swanee River, but not to take the entire rim. There are a lot of shoals, and long distances in and out of potential anchorages along the "Big Bend". Many of the market are PVC poles, and require local knowledge.

Camp Thataway, is on upper Perdido Bay, and welcomes C Brats, with free laundry, a real bed and AC, plus transport to grocery stores etc.

Cape Girardeau and the Castor/Little River Diversion canal are the site of a manual fuel jug carry if you need the extra fuel.
See Pat Anderson's post.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As it gets closer to departure I will begin paying for a subscription to NEBO so you can see where I am at actual time



Unless things have changed, Nebo is a free app. Or at least there are no subscription costs. (I don't know if I paid a minimum fee for the app or not, but if so, it would have only been a couple of bucks.) You can follow my travels on C-Traveler (when I remember to turn it on. Rolling Eyes ) But C-Traveler is parked for the midwest winter until March. Colby
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:21 pm    Post subject: Planning on Crusing the Great Loop Reply with quote

Colby,
I have the free version.
I just figured to track a person you needed to pay for the service.
Apparently I don't need to.

Thanks for the advice
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:25 pm    Post subject: Planning on Crusing the Great Loop Reply with quote

Colby

I just jumped on my app.
I am going to need to spend a little time getting familiar with this app so I can share it others.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just sent you a msg via Nebo, so you can see how that works. I see your boat shows out of the water, near Marysviille. Colby
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