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S.Duncan



Joined: 24 Sep 2022
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City/Region: Prince Rupert
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 1981
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: Chittery Bites
PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:32 am    Post subject: 22' Angler - 90hp or 115hp? Reply with quote

I'm looking at purchasing a 1981 22' Angler. It currently has a 2012 Suzuki DF70ATL 70hp outboard on it. I have the option to buy the boat without the motor and because of the service history and size of the motor, I am skeptical.

I am thinking of buying a new 90 or 115 Yamaha and wanted peoples opinions on what would suit the boat best.

Should I keep the 70 on? Or go new and bigger?

I will be taking it on multi-day overnight trips and fishing and surfing adventures out of Prince Rupert, BC.

Thanks!
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txmntman



Joined: 10 Mar 2009
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City/Region: GEORGETOWN
State or Province: TX
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Saint Somewhere
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I, like many others here, have a CD22 with a 90HP (and a 5 hp kicker). Your question has many answers, but begin with this question. What do you want your engine and boat to do? My CD22 will hit 25-28 mph at wot. However, I spend most of my time putting along at 5-7 mph or fast (at about 20 mph). For my needs, a 70 hp or a 90 hp would suit me fine. If you are in a need for speed at times, pulling a skier, going fast due to need to travel far for some reason, you may be happier with the 115. So, what are your speed needs? Just some thoughts…….
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Edwin



Joined: 23 Mar 2006
Posts: 104
City/Region: Edmonton
State or Province: AB
C-Dory Year: 1990
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: Lady C
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to read in your post that you will take it out on a sea trial.
That boat was not designed for any speed and with it's flat bottom the 70 was a good match.
My 1990 angler is well matched with the 90 HP and in one emergency situation I had no problem getting on plane with 7 good size men aboard
I fished the Work channel area for a dozen years with occasional trips to Dundas Ils and the boat did well in those waters.
If the price is right, the 70 HP might be all you need and that is why if possible take it out and get a feel for it.
These flat bottom boats have a feel of their own.
Good luck
Ed
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oldguy83



Joined: 22 Mar 2013
Posts: 43
City/Region: minnesota
PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

81s were built for 75 hp, transom may not handle 115hp. The 75s were two stroke at the time. Maybe 250lbs.
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Hunkydory



Joined: 28 Mar 2005
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City/Region: Cokeville, Wyoming
State or Province: WY
C-Dory Year: 2000
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Hunkydory
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Oldguy83 stated, that boat is probably better suited for a lighter motor than even the 2012 Suzuki DF70ATL 70hp outboard it has now, which weighs over 340 lbs. A great new power choice could be the present 70 hp Yamaha weighing 253 lbs. On our 2 month group SE Alaska cruise last summer, Mike Moser’s CD22 Little Joe, did extremely well with his 70 hp Yamaha & Red Fox a major contributor here years back went from a Yamaha 115 to a Yamaha 70 on his flat bottomed CD22 early vintage angler and was extremely pleased with its performance. The Yamaha 115 weighs around 380 & the 90 close to 360. Like others have suggested unless you have a need for the additional speed, the 70 Yamaha would be a better choice, but there are advantages of the bigger motors beyond speed worth consideration. I went from 80 to 120 hp due more to wanting additional operational flex when running very heavy on lengthy cruises along with the ability to quietly run on plane or with the twins a single motor at displacement speed at a much lower rpm. Personally, to me these advantages don’t out way the negatives of the extra weight on this particular boat.

Jay

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thataway



Joined: 02 Nov 2003
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City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will also throw my vote in for the lightest 70 hp you can find. As others have noted they are true flat bottom semi Dorys.
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SENSEI



Joined: 31 Oct 2003
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City/Region: Stanwood
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1995
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a 1983. It came with a 65 evinrude 2 stroke
I repowered with a 90 hp evinrude ficht and it was a nice fit for the boat

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