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nscogin
Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 103 City/Region: Washington DC/Wareham
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:03 pm Post subject: Towing a CD22 with a 2005 Honda Odyssey |
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Has anyone towed their 22 with an Odyssey? The 2005 has a towing capacity of 3500 with the coolers, which I would have to add. Not sure what that would cost. I realize the CD 22 would need to be empty of fuel to make it light enough, but wonder how it would pull, etc.
I appreciate any help you experts can give this novice.
Norma Scogin
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Sea Wolf
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Norma-
The CD-22 weighs at least 2600 and more often about 3000 lbs when loaded up with motors, misc. gear, electronics, fuel, water, etc. Add to that a 1000 to 1300 lb trailer, and we have at least 3600 to 4300+ lb tow load.
But the real test is not what you can tow, but whether you can stop the towed rig in a panic, or go downhill on a grade and stay in control.
It also makes a great deal of difference whether we're talking about towing the boat down to the ramp a few miles accross town, or over mountainous terrain.
I'm not familiar with the Odyssey, but think you're cutting it pretty thin.
Joe. _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
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oldgrowth
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:00 am Post subject: |
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To tow 3500 lbs Honda "Requires surge-type or electric trailer brakes, load-distribution hitch and transmission- and power steering-fluid coolers".
At freeway speeds you may get a lot of sway and as Joe has said you are cutting it too thin. You will cut the life of your Van by pushing it so much. If you want to keep the Honda, get another vehicle to tow the boat, even if it is used one.
I think you will be surprised how much it will cost to modify your Van and how inexpensive a used vehicle, capable of towing your boat will be. _________________ Dave 
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gljjr
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:01 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Dave, that is too heavy a boat to tow with the Honda. Go buy an old Half ton truck or a Suburban for $1500 and only use it for towing. You will be much happier in the long run and much safer besides. _________________ Gary Johnson
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nscogin
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:45 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the input. The numbers I got on weight are a bit lower than what Joe has cited. I'm not sure if my info is correct.
I have a brother-in-law who can tow it for me the short distances that I need to go, just to put it in the water at the beginning of the season and take it out again at the end. I was just wondering if it was worth upgrading the Odyssey to allow me the option of towing.
Thanks for the input. |
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M1911
Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 30 City/Region: Framingham, MA
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:33 am Post subject: |
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the Odyssey is front-wheel drive. The slope of the ramp and the weight on the trailer hitch transfer weight away from the drive wheels. That would not help traction... |
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thataway
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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I peroidically tow my C Dory 22 with a Honda Pilot (the Pilot does have a higher towing capacity(4500 lbs for a boat)--due to the construction of the "frame"). My pilot has all wheel drive--when necessary, but no problem getting the boat out of the water. The tongue weight of the boat puts weight on the rear wheels. The front wheels are on a dryer part of the ramp. The V6 has plenty of power (tow out of overdrive). Stoping power is not a problem with adequate disc brakes on the trailer. Generally we tow the C Dory with a one ton van or a 20 foot motorhome, which has a 5,000 lb towing capacity. The C dory as we tow it weighs about 4200 lbs, including the trailer. _________________ Bob Austin
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:20 am Post subject: |
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Bob is right, a 22' + trailer with a weight of at least 4100 to 4500 lb., than add passengers to your vehicle with fuel. I know some will say I have no problem pulling the boat up the ramp because I have a lot of power a big V-6. Some of the 4 cyl. vehicle have over 235 HP stock. I wouldn't want to pull my boat with that. Remember sooner or later you will have to make a panick stop , that's where safety comes first. I think it is better to have a tow vehicle that is higher rated for your tow. Remember, that most accidents happen 3 miles form where you live. Sooner or later you will have to slam your brakes. |
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Hoop
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Norma, One of the best resources for answering towing questions is TrailerBoats Magazine. They publish an annual towing guide that is jam packed with great information.
http://www.trailerboats.com/output.cfm?id=944551
Towing always requires careful consideration of not just the weight of the towed load, but also of the combined gross vehicle weight capacity of the towing vehicle. And has been mentioned above, the critical part of towing is stopping! _________________ Hoop - Friday Harbor, WA |
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:34 am Post subject: |
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The tow capacity includes the weight of the occupants in the vehicle. It would probably pull it short distances but it would be hard on it for sure. |
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