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C Sniper



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:51 am    Post subject: Venting heat Reply with quote

I am wanting to keep the temperature down inside the cabin when locked up and not in use. Mainly as I am hoping to minimize degradation to the power station that runs my mini a/c. If I can keep the inside below 104 I could even charge but that is not critical. I am considering putting in a Marinco (formerly nicro?) day night solar fan. Has anyone put one on the roof of a 22? I am planning to try to measure roof camber today as the vent documentation shows max of 1/2" per 12" for proper installation. Could do a hatch install too but the hottest air is going to be up high.

Any input appreciated as I hate the thought of cutting a huge hole in my roof and then regretting it later.

Another idea I had was putting a high output computer fan and PVC pipe behind a back rest cushion and vent thru the hole the electric comes into the cabin. Would probably have to cut another hole on the other side for opposing flow. In this case first first hole already exists and the second hole, if later regretted, would not overly visible unless you're looking for it or accessing storage under the bench seats as it would be hidden behind the back rest cushion. (I have the rare commuter version without kitchen and dinette table). Same issue as hatch option above as not venting out from the roof, I am guessing, would have less cooling effect given hot air rises.
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journey on



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put a solar vent in the head on Journey On. It has worked great. I understand that your boat is neither a 25 or has a head. I also installed one on our 36' sailboat; worked great there also.

The job was easy. Just cut a hole and install the fan and battery. Ours has worked for >10 years. At least the fan has, the battery has crapped out a few years ago; someday I'll replace it. That's an easy job; just that I'm not motivated (lazy.)

The roof of Journey On is 1/2" thick over the cabins starboard aft corner. That was sufficient for the fan. No wires or screws.

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Peter & Judy



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I can keep the inside below 104 I could even charge but that is not critical.


Ha Ha. We have different problems here in the Great White North. Today the temperature on my ranch in Alberta, Canada is -40C (-40F) outside and probably not much different inside my boat.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A no new hole option. Install computer fan in a pvc pipe/duct with the outlet going through the existing hole for the electrical wiring and the inlet pipe/duct run on the inside of the cabin up to the ceiling. For makeup air I open the center front window with the lock levers in the slot that allows it to be open only a crack - never had any rain enter and I do have a screen over the window for bugs and critters - works if you have a center opening window. Other solution - move to the northern tier with lots of fresh water and no salt corrosion.

Happy New Year, Jay
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thataway the C Dory25 has a Nico solar vent in the forward hatch and in the cabin aft just inside the cabin. These do help. No problem with installation, but I did not put them in.
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C Sniper



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

great thanks for the feedback. i grew up on the artic tundra, salt and corrosion are a small price to pay...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had two on my 22. One just above the galley, and the other in the berth hatch. No problem with roof camber. However, even though I also installed one in the head on my newer 25, I'm not all that impressed with the solar vent for their expensive cost. I'm not sure how well it would work to vent the heat out of your 22 in the Texas sun. Colby
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C Sniper



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the spirit of crack the windows, which keeps my truck 20-40 degrees cooler than windows up on sunny days... just for when she is locked up and not in use.

Anyone care to chime in here, solar vent to keep the blast furnace at bay???
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay, I love that idea! I usually do keep the center window open just like you suggest, but need a way to get some air flow. The computer fan using the existing hole is something I am going to try!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Nico solar vent came with our boat. I’ve had to replace it once in the past 19 seasons. It’s mounted directly above the Wallas stove & works great for removing condensation from heating water & cooking, but I’m with Colby & others who doubt it would do much for reducing the kind of heat you’er wanting to.

Jay

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am confused, cracking the windows on a car does what I want to accomplish and the is passive venting. Am I missing something here??? I am not trying to air condition the boat with a solar fan, just keep the inside temp equal to or as close as possible to the outside temperature. Preferably below 104, but well below 140.

edit note, generally speaking the island never gets above 96, and seldom above 93..
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We put a Nicro solar vent fan in the hatch over the v-berth. Silver bubble insulation in the windows. It made a difference whether here in the Tropical Tip or in the Pacific Northwest. Due to the potential for blowing sand and grit, I was not keen on leaving a hatch or window cracked unless we were in the boat.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a little confused here. It seems you (C Sniper) shot down the cracked window idea. I could see it not working well on the C Dory as a passive use because the window is at mid-level compared to a truck window near the roof but my suggestion was the cracked window as an air makeup for the fan (solar or computer) exhaust. Seems to me that a solar would be working all the time the sun is shining and that would be enough to keep the temps down to ambient or at least near that. I'm also assuming you are talking about when the boat is not in use. Am I missing something?

Happy New Year, Jay
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my confusion is growing here, when did I shoot down anything? The cracked window is a great way to get opposing air flow from a computer/solar fan, period.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tangent here... James, is the SD - Sandy Eggo? south dakota? other? none of my biz? haha. just curious

I appreciate your input given you have more experience with the dorys in local waters. thx again!
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