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JonO
Joined: 12 May 2021 Posts: 40 City/Region: Madison
State or Province: WI
C-Dory Year: 2017
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Tremolo
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:23 pm Post subject: Advice on shipping/hauling a C-Dory 2,000 miles |
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I've seen an old thread on this topic but I'd like to hear current recommendations for transporting a C-Dory half way across the country.... say Pacific Northwest to Wisconsin.
Let's start with making sure the owner's insurance policy covers transportation by a third party and the third party hauler is bonded and insured. Obviously if the hauler is pulling the boat on its own trailer, I would expect the trailer... tires and bearings to be in good shape.
Beyond that, I'm looking for general guidance and recommendations for specific transportation companies.
Thanks in advance. |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3581 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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Hook up the trailer and hit the road. At least that's what I would do. |
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akwagon
Joined: 13 Jun 2013 Posts: 31 City/Region: Anchorage
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2002
C-Dory Model: 24 Tomcat
Vessel Name: At last
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:09 am Post subject: |
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Hook it up and go. Make sure truck and trailer are ready for it.
I just towed a tomcat 24 from Ohio to Alaska. 4500 miles.
Old magic tilt trailer hand been completely redone. New brakes, bearings, GOOD tires with next step up weight rating then needed.
Truck was also new and had a much higher tow rating then what the tomcat weighed.
Easy todo. Just be smart. |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21472 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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It sounds as if you want a commercial shipper. That will be a bit different than If you DIY. There ia a horror story on The Hull Truth currently, where a used boat was purchased and basically totaled by the sub contracted transporter. The transport insurance did not cover the boat, since the sub contractor had launched it.
So, be sure you have insurance for the boat when hauled on a trailer, and for the trailer.
Repack bearings, check races, seals, and brakes.
I stop every 2 hours to check the tires and running gear, plus do an IR TEMP check on the bearings.
Spare gear: set of bearings and seals. A hub (maybe) torque wrench, impact wrench, spare lug nuts. A jack capable of handing the trailer, and perhaps jack stands. A grease gun with same kind of grease which is now on the bearings.
Be sure the boat is properly strapped onto the trailer. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
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Home port: Pensacola FL |
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WildSide
Joined: 28 Jun 2021 Posts: 16 City/Region: White Mills
State or Province: KY
C-Dory Year: 1996
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C ' YA
Photos: C ' YA
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:03 am Post subject: |
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I'm looking to ship a 22 ft approximately 2,500 Miles. The quotes are coming in between 88 cents and $1 per mile. I have had quotes come in as high as a$1.75 per mile. The trailer will have new bearings, fresh grease, and new tires which in my opinion gets the quoted prices a little lower. |
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Foggy
Joined: 01 Aug 2013 Posts: 1580 City/Region: Traverse City; Northern Lake Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2014
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Boatless in Boating Paradise
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:14 am Post subject: |
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Back in the days when I thought I had the world by the kahoonies, I bought a
Florida go-fast I/O V8 boat. The MI dealer had his "experienced" hauler have it
"winterized" then delivered on a trailer to Michigan in February.
Anticipation and expectations ran high waiting for Spring. It was launched with a
maiden voyage planned of about 1/4 mile to the gas dock. After the ignition key
started the engine, I decided to "have a peak" in the engine compartment to
witness water shooting out the side of both cracked risers.
It was questionable who had the most shock or embarrassment, me or the dealer.
Stuff happens. Assumptions can be painful.
Aye. _________________ Keep an open mind just enough to not let your brain fall out. |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21472 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:24 am Post subject: |
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WildSide wrote: | I'm looking to ship a 22 ft approximately 2,500 Miles. The quotes are coming in between 88 cents and $1 per mile. I have had quotes come in as high as a$1.75 per mile. The trailer will have new bearings, fresh grease, and new tires which in my opinion gets the quoted prices a little lower. |
The important issues are will your boat be safe. Will it arrive in the same condition as when shipped, will the hauler call your every day to report progress and any issues? How good is the hauler's bonding and insurance? Perhaps most important is the reputation of the hauler.
Joe Blow, who has a 1974 gasser 1/2 ton can tow your boat...But...Even new bearings and tires can have issues. There can be tire punctures. The disc brakes may drag, heating the hub, and causing loss of grease (is the grease high temp, waterproof?).
Will the windshield and bow of the boat be protected? What security precautions will be taken...
I have only had one boat commercially towed. It came from Michigan City, Ind. on the hauler's hydraulic trailer in January. He was doing about 4 legs of a haul, with different boats' and running back to FL empty. The boat was about 30' lOA and 9'6" beam Weight light about 12,000 lbs--the price was $1 a mile (2003). The boat was upper shrink wrapped. The hauler called me at least once a day. There was a problem with the shrink wrap so he fixed it. His trailer could either launch the boat, put it on blocks and jack stands, or put it to be picked up by a travel lift. |
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Foggy
Joined: 01 Aug 2013 Posts: 1580 City/Region: Traverse City; Northern Lake Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2014
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Boatless in Boating Paradise
Photos: W B Nod
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:35 am Post subject: |
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With all the variables, 1 or 2 examples are meaningless.
The truth is, you won't know until it's completed.
Prior due diligence is the best one can do.
Aye. |
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1808 City/Region: Wasilla
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Whisperer
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:45 am Post subject: |
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There's risk in everything. I like to think that things are generally going to be fine, but I agree with the previous posters that good tires, decent brakes, and a fresh pack on the bearings are a fine idea for a long haul. I do not believe that everything must be new though for your journey to be successful. These things just need to be serviceable and in good working condition. However, if things are not fine, like others have noted, make sure you have insurance that covers it. |
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WildSide
Joined: 28 Jun 2021 Posts: 16 City/Region: White Mills
State or Province: KY
C-Dory Year: 1996
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C ' YA
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Points above, all well taken and meaningful. Past personal experience:
PSC Flicka 20 - Northern Ohio to Ky delivered on time, no issues $850
SageCat 15 hull 000 - Colorado to KY -$900 on time no issues
Island Packet 32 - Trucking company Bradenton FL to Kentucky Lake $3,500 no issues
SageCat 15 - Kentucky to Alaska - $3,500 - no issues
Island Packet 32 - Kentucky to Ft. Myers Florida $4000 No issues (same shipper from this boat above).
C-Dory 22 - In process of setting up shipping for next week! ~ $2,100 Maybe....
Looking at the above, I think I buy too many boats....
I look at the shipper's credentials (insurance, DOT Licenses, and also heavily on their reviews. The reviews usually confirm or negate their claims of no issues, daily reporting, gps mapping, etc). In the end, it is a calculated risk, so make sure you have your boat insurance in force, and talk with your agent that third party towing is covered! |
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JonO
Joined: 12 May 2021 Posts: 40 City/Region: Madison
State or Province: WI
C-Dory Year: 2017
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Tremolo
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Some great advice.... thank you all. Can one ever have too many boats?
I'm looking forward to joining the fleet. Up next... what to name her....
JonO |
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starcrafttom
Joined: 07 Nov 2003 Posts: 7936 City/Region: marysville
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1984
C-Dory Model: 27 Cruiser
Vessel Name: to be decided later
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:15 am Post subject: |
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if its come from the PNW why not call the builder in Bellingham and see who he uses? see if their shipper might have a space open. _________________ Thomas J Elliott
http://tomsfishinggear.blogspot.com/ |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3581 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Don't forget, once you get it there, you have to get it back.
I would use my own trailer. Less hassles that way IMO. |
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