General kicker install question...

MilesandMiles

I googled this question in various forms but either couldn't find the magic words to ask it correctly, or it hasn't been asked (or is too common knowledge, thus no one has felt the need to ask)

So....we recently picked up a 1992 CD22-cruiser with a honda 90. I need to put a kicker on it for trolling/fishing.

I've had a welded aluminum boat for a few years now, and have forgotten what it's like to consider the transom (so as not to cause yourself problems later on by damaging or compromising it in some small way, that could later become a big way)

When ya'll put the kicker on, do you put anything between the clamps (the round clamp pads) and the transom? Like wood? Or thin strip of metal to keep the pads from digging into the transom (if they even would)

Also: This boat has power trim tabs. I did find some past posts about solving the problem of the tabs getting in the way (mini jacker, trimming down the tab) but I wouldn't mind--and much appreciate--if anyone wanted to speak again about what worked for them with this issue.

Thanks
M&M

Dan McNally · Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:05 am Post subject:

How is your 90 horse mounted,straight to the transom I would bet. My kicker is mounted straight to the transom with no problems. You could use a light gauge metal strip if wanted but I see no need for it.

Dan

thataway · Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:29 am Post subject:

We have always used a kicker mount. The smaller engines, we have used, have ridges in the frame, which will scar up the transom, and the clamps may also scar the side of the engine well. The kicker mount gets the engine far enough aft to clear the trim tabs.

There are rubber pads you can buy to put over the transom--but there may not be quite as good a "grip"….

anchorout · Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:03 pm Post subject: kicker

Miles: I had the same questions when I mounted my kicker. It takes a little time, but if you comb through the "Photo" section of this forum you will see many options to mounting your kicker as well as trim tabs, transducers, and other transom devices.

Spike · Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:00 pm Post subject:

Miles
I have trim tabs on my boat also. And have my kicker mounted on a mini jack plate it clears the tabs by about 3\4 of an inch. The plate is mounted to the transom using large washers and sealed with 3M 5200

shellndanm · Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:09 pm Post subject: kicker bracket

I just installed a kicker bracket on my boat. The bracket is an Amarine-made product. I like the moveable bracket approach so a short shaft can be used, easier to carry and while underway the skeg stays far out of the water when the bracket is in the fully up position.

Make sure you over drill and fill with epoxy. My boat is a 2005 and still has a plywood transom. The transom is just over 2 inches thick and you will need 3 inch long bolts I would use at least 5/16 diameter for mounting.

On a side note. I don't fish but wouldn't the running the boat with the Honda 90 at idle slow be slow enough for trolling?

Dan McPartlin

MilesandMiles · Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:03 am Post subject:

This has helped. I think I'm going the mini jack route. Like most of us here I imagine, drilling holes in the transom makes me a nervous wreck....

Q: Does a 1992 CD22 cruiser have a plywood or balsa core transom? I'm guessing balsa?

idling/trolling with a 90: I've always been kind of an MPG's fanatic, and the thought of being a few miles of shore without a back up motor that will at least turn the boat into the waves makes me almost as nervous as drilling holes in the transom.

Since I do most of my fishing/boating solo, I'm going to mount the kicker on the port side for balance. I've been combing a lot of brat's albums and think I've got it planned out now.

Much appreciated. Thanks.

M&M

MilesandMiles · Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:49 am Post subject:

(I googled this question as well, but not quite satisfied)

Where has the c-brats landed on the 3M 4200/5200 "debate?

I've been reading various other boat brand forums and it's all over the map.

Aurelia · Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:27 am Post subject:

Pertaining to mounting a kicker mount on the transom:

If you are looking at just those two options, I have to say 4200 is the one you want. You are looking to create strength with your stainless fasteners and a seal with the goop in the tube. If you are overdrilling and epoxy filling as most folks on here recommend, it could be argued that the sealant is really just a backup for that and even unnecessary depending on where its used.

I use 4200 much more of the time in general.

Greg

Montana Kev · Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:55 am Post subject:

M&M,

A couple thoughts. If mounting on port, consider the location of the tiller and steering. It can be a tight fit with the tiller also on the port side of the motor.

I had mounted our kicker on the port side because the previous owner had clamped one to the transom and there were clamp marks in the gel coat. I added a mini jacker in the same spot. Then I learned I could not turn the tiller very far to port as it hit the side of the well. Later I found a used swim step and the best place for a step is on the port side, free of cables. I ended up moving the mini jacker to the other side, patching holes and drilling even more holes.

Sunbeam · Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:43 pm Post subject:

Captains Cat · Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:47 pm Post subject:

Don't forget that if it's coupled with the Main with a link, you can steer with your wheel or if not you can use the Main as a "rudder" and get some steering. The throttle is another issue which most folks, in the take home mode, don't worry about until they get very close to that home pier.

Charlie

colbysmith · Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:02 pm Post subject:

Feel free to take a look at my album of Midnight Flyer. One of the imbedded albums is of my kicker install. Colby

MilesandMiles · Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:30 am Post subject:

colbysmith · Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:48 pm Post subject:

I don't think it was the "extra" long shaft, but just the standard long shaft. I've been very happy with the set up. With the adjustment I have it on now, it clears the trim tabs by about 1/2". I think it weighs about 60 lbs. And at full throttle pushes the boat at about 5 kts. (At 75% throttle is still pushes about 4 - 4.5 kts.) The mini jacker probably weighs another 15 lbs. I did have to place shims between the transom and the mini jacker to get just a little more clearance. The kicker I have, is Tohatsu model number MFS 6CD L. Colby