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daninPA
Joined: 16 Aug 2020 Posts: 238 City/Region: MOUNT JOY
State or Province: PA
C-Dory Year: 1994
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: NAVIRE
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the reply.
That's interesting -- do the posts prevent the boat from drifting over the fenders? |
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srbaum
Joined: 30 Aug 2010 Posts: 878 City/Region: Portsmouth
State or Province: VA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Osprey
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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DaninPA,
The post DO prevent the boat from drifting over the fenders. Additionally, the wooden boards, that is carpeted, inside of the fenders was replaced with 1/2” King Starboard, which also aids in centering. _________________ Steve Baum
Homeport of Portsmouth, VA
OSPREY (Ex Mister Sea) 2000 22 C-Dory 2010 - Sold 3/19
OSPREY (Ex ADITI) 2007 26 Cape Cruiser 2018 |
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daninPA
Joined: 16 Aug 2020 Posts: 238 City/Region: MOUNT JOY
State or Province: PA
C-Dory Year: 1994
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: NAVIRE
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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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srbaum wrote: | DaninPA,
The post DO prevent the boat from drifting over the fenders. Additionally, the wooden boards, that is carpeted, inside of the fenders was replaced with 1/2” King Starboard, which also aids in centering. |
Good to know -- thanks!
Is there a picture in your album that shows how you mounted the King Starboard sheets? |
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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 8555 City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
Photos: Daydream and Crabby Lou
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:57 am Post subject: |
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srbaum wrote: | DaninPA,
The post DO prevent the boat from drifting over the fenders. Additionally, the wooden boards, that is carpeted, inside of the fenders was replaced with 1/2” King Starboard, which also aids in centering. |
What kind of trailer so you have that has wooden boards inside the fenders? Our King Saltwater has nothing inside the fenders, with rollers rather than bunks, and our goal posts are only at the stern end and set too far out, I had been considering moving them in closer but the nuts are pretty rusted and I don't have a proper socket for my DeWalt impact wrench yet! I have hit them with PB Blaster multiple times with no results.
Yesterday afternoon was about the worst retrieval we have ever had except the one in the gale at Lake Powell. No way could we get it centered yesterday, and one side is sitting on the fender. We towed her home (less than five miles) and will see if we can jack her up and manually center.
I could go with a second set of goal posts just off the widest part and move the stern goal posts in to where the widest part would just pass through. If you could take some photos of your trailer with the boat off it, that would be very helpful.
Thanks! _________________
DAYDREAM - CD25 Cruiser
CRABBY LOU - CD16 Angler (sold 2020)
Pat & Patty Anderson, C-Brat #62!
http://daydreamsloop.blogspot.com
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daninPA
Joined: 16 Aug 2020 Posts: 238 City/Region: MOUNT JOY
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C-Dory Year: 1994
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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All these stories about not being perfectly centered is making me feel much, MUCH better.
Thank you!
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3382 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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My Magic Tilt trailer has the fenders closed on the inboard side. The inside face of the fender is covered with bunk carpeting. My 22 fits between the two fenders, although when pulling out I have to check that the boat is on the bunks and not sitting on top of one of the fenders. If it is, it just requires backing down until the back end floats and a push or a pull to get the boat back in the middle. |
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srbaum
Joined: 30 Aug 2010 Posts: 878 City/Region: Portsmouth
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daninPA
Joined: 16 Aug 2020 Posts: 238 City/Region: MOUNT JOY
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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That's interesting -- my roller trailer is setup that the fenders are never in contact with the hull (unless I'm WAY off). |
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srbaum
Joined: 30 Aug 2010 Posts: 878 City/Region: Portsmouth
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C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Osprey
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:24 am Post subject: |
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DaninPA,
My boat is no longer in contact with the King Starboard… it’s just there to aid in centering. It WAS in contact with the old set up, because the plywood was swollen, due to rot. |
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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 8555 City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
Photos: Daydream and Crabby Lou
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:45 am Post subject: |
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daninPA and srbaum, I am guessing first that because you both have Ventures with a bit more pronounced vee compared to my standard flat bottom CD 25, centering is at least a bit easier. Also, it appears srbaum has bunks rather than rollers. I have rollers, and even when the boat is centered properly there is barely an inch between the boat and each fender.
I am thinking my solution is going to have to be a second set of goal posts mounted right at the widest spot, which I think is pretty much right abreast of the helm, mounted so the boat just clears them by an inch. I think I alsl need to get a proper socket for my impact wrench and move the goal posts at the stern in so they are the same distance apart as the new goal posts. This will not assure the boat is centered but will give us a better target on approach, and the real centering will be done by forward goal posts. Other than that, I don't know what else I could do.
Does this sound like a reasonable plan? |
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localboy
Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 4656 City/Region: Lake Stevens via Honolulu
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:06 am Post subject: |
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Pat, you'll probably never get those nuts off. Once they are rusted sufficiently, the "fuse" with the bolt; might as well be welded on. You can soak them with PB or Kroil until eternity. They'll never budge.
I just replaced a few brackets & nuts/bolts on our King. After 11+ years, they rusted heavily. I had to cut them all off with a disc on a die grinder. A Sawz-all would work too, assuming you have enough room. I didn't.
Like you, I have about 1" clearance (on each side) between the hull & the fenders. Our King is set up with bunks. _________________ "We can go over there...behind the 'little one'....."
Wife to her husband pointing @ us...from the bow of their 50-footer; Prideaux Haven 2013 |
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daninPA
Joined: 16 Aug 2020 Posts: 238 City/Region: MOUNT JOY
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C-Dory Year: 1994
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Pat Anderson wrote: | daninPA and srbaum, I am guessing first that because you both have Ventures with a bit more pronounced vee compared to my standard flat bottom CD 25, centering is at least a bit easier. Also, it appears srbaum has bunks rather than rollers. I have rollers, and even when the boat is centered properly there is barely an inch between the boat and each fender.
I am thinking my solution is going to have to be a second set of goal posts mounted right at the widest spot, which I think is pretty much right abreast of the helm, mounted so the boat just clears them by an inch. I think I alsl need to get a proper socket for my impact wrench and move the goal posts at the stern in so they are the same distance apart as the new goal posts. This will not assure the boat is centered but will give us a better target on approach, and the real centering will be done by forward goal posts. Other than that, I don't know what else I could do.
Does this sound like a reasonable plan? |
It does, but I'm still not understanding the advantages of posts over guide bunks -- posts will only constrain movement within certain angles -- bunks provide guidance along their entire length.
I can see the advantages of posts for visual alignment, but don't see how they are an improvement to guide bunks which are essentially continuous rails that prevent movement past a certain spot on the trailer.
I am obviously missing something or posts would not be sold and installed so frequently! |
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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 8555 City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
Photos: Daydream and Crabby Lou
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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daninPA wrote: |
It does, but I'm still not understanding the advantages of posts over guide bunks -- posts will only constrain movement within certain angles -- bunks provide guidance along their entire length.
I can see the advantages of posts for visual alignment, but don't see how they are an improvement to guide bunks which are essentially continuous rails that prevent movement past a certain spot on the trailer.
I am obviously missing something or posts would not be sold and installed so frequently! |
I don't think you are missing anything. I just don't see how I can use guide bunks on a roller trailer. If someone could explain that, and maybe provide a link to guide bunks that would work for me, I would order them in a hearbeat. |
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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 8555 City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
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C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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localboy wrote: | Pat, you'll probably never get those nuts off. Once they are rusted sufficiently, the "fuse" with the bolt; might as well be welded on. You can soak them with PB or Kroil until eternity. They'll never budge.
I just replaced a few brackets & nuts/bolts on our King. After 11+ years, they rusted heavily. I had to cut them all off with a disc on a die grinder. A Sawz-all would work too, assuming you have enough room. I didn't.
Like you, I have about 1" clearance (on each side) between the hull & the fenders. Our King is set up with bunks. |
Mark, I am reasonably confident you are right. With a trailer with bunks, aren't some kind of guide bunks an option for you? As far as room goes, I can cut the nuts off the u-bolts with the boat in the water, as we have a slip for the summer at Blaine Marina. But I am at a loss as to what to replace them with for centering guides.
So what is the centering solution for me? Any suggestions? |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20829 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Pat, no reason you cannot use side bunks with a roller trailer. The bunks just guide the boat in place. The side bunks can be fairly low, and they can hold the boat in place.
I agree that you cannot put much pressure on the guide poles, even if they have heavy square tubing. _________________ Bob Austin
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