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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003
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City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
Photos: Daydream and Crabby Lou
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Mark, do you have these guides on your trailer?
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DAYDREAM - CD25 Cruiser
CRABBY LOU - CD16 Angler (sold 2020)
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Hunkydory
Joined: 28 Mar 2005
Posts: 2657
City/Region: Cokeville, Wyoming
State or Province: WY
C-Dory Year: 2000
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Hunkydory
Photos: Hunkydory-Jay-and-Jolee
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| Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| B~C wrote: | i figure to strap them on the guide bunks to act kind of like a fender to hold the boat off of the guide. I'll take them off once the boat is loaded and I should have an inch or so gap between the guides and the boat . Right now my boat is right up to the guide on the port side with about a 3" gap between guide and boat on the starboard side.
I was just thinking these things may not work, they'll be submerged and as i pull out,the boat may be set on the trailer before the pads contact the boat |
Ken, thanks again for the idea as it worked like a champ for me. They solved a problem, I’ve occasionally had for the last 18 boating seasons. When off center & tight against either quide board, the chines could catch on the top of the board & pull the screws loose, sometimes not noticed till a ways down the road & even then for quite awhile not realizing what was causing the problem. It took awhile to figure out why the screws where pulling out of the quide board as most of the time it centered well & if not it would shortly after once moving on the road.
With the pad temporarily mounted on the inside of the board in near the widest part of the boat, when pulled in tight with the winch & the pads held tight with the Velcro, the boat positioned perfectly & they were easy & quick to put on & off.
Jay
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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003
Posts: 8553
City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
Photos: Daydream and Crabby Lou
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| Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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OK, did some measurements yesterday afternoon, this won't work on a double axle King trailer without serious modification. The five foot board is too short, it takes about seven feet from end to end to clear the fenders, so would need a new board and carpet. Also and u-bolts are too small. Not sure whether the 21" height would be adequate either. Not impossible, but this unit as sold is not my answer. The general concept, however, is correct I think. |
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PNW_Wesley
Joined: 28 Nov 2019
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City/Region: Vancouver
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 19 Angler
Vessel Name: Zenith
Photos: Zenith
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| Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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The wind is typically from the NW at our home ramp in Kalama. While retrieving the boat, the wind pushes it to the left side of the trailer. The boat would often come to rest with the chine line sitting on the bunk rail. The weight on the rail could cause the rail to pull away from its mounting screws.
I considered repositioning the bunk mounting posts to be above the trailer frame, but I was concerned about the potential for the boat’s bottom to rub on the U-bolts.
I purchased a second set of bunk rails, and mated them to the existing rails. The top of the bunk rails is now between the 2 chine lines, and the wind is no longer an issue.
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Prior water toys:
15' Smoker Craft
14' SOAR Inflatable Kayak
18' Sea Ray
28' Bayliner
19' Smoker Craft
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daninPA
Joined: 16 Aug 2020
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City/Region: MOUNT JOY
State or Province: PA
C-Dory Year: 1994
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: NAVIRE
Photos: daninPA
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This is a very helpful discussion, but yesterday I had to pull the boat out of the water before the impending storm.
I had to do it all solo and found the lack of help positively reduced the pressure and divided mind. I lined up the centerline with the hitch pedestal and drove the boat up onto the trailer. I left the engine in idle but forward, hopped onto the dock, scrambled down to the strap, connected it and started cranking until the tension was firm. Scrambled back into the boat, shut down and lifted the engine, climbed back down to the hand winch, and pulled it into the travel position. Maybe 5 minutes.
Like most hole-in-one, no one witnessed this tour de force.
As this will likely never happen again I wanted to document it |
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daninPA
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City/Region: MOUNT JOY
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C-Dory Year: 1994
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ssobol
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City/Region: SW Michigan
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srbaum
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City/Region: Portsmouth
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C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Osprey
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| Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:02 am Post subject: |
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I use my trailers primarily on salt water and the standard thin wall steel guides had relatively short lifes. They are no longer heavily galvanized like years ago and even though I always rinse the trailer after use, the interior walls of the newer steel guides rot from the inside out.
After my last set failed, I went with aluminum. They are thicker wall, then the steel guides and after 3 years, see no visible signs of corrosion.
I used my existing PVC pipes and mounting hardware.
Look at this on eBay
(2)- 1 1/2" Square 1/8" Thick Aluminum Boat Trailer Square Guide On Poles PAIR, sold by Sturdy Built, Trailer Parts.
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/WEAAAOxy1klRbNhR/s-l200.jpg
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Homeport of Portsmouth, VA
OSPREY (Ex Mister Sea) 2000 22 C-Dory 2010 - Sold 3/19
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Clewless
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City/Region: Ashland
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C-Dory Year: 1986
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Vessel Name: Clewless
Photos: Clewless
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| Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I had to do it all solo and found the lack of help positively reduced the pressure and divided mind. |
So we’ll said |
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Big Mac
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City/Region: Chehalis
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C-Dory Year: 2001
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Mary Ellen
Photos: Mary Ellen
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| Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:46 pm Post subject: centering boat on trailer |
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| If you look on the Mary Ellen photo album page one you will see a simple fix that has worked for me for many years. |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 12632
City/Region: Sequim
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C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
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| Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:05 am Post subject: |
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| srbaum wrote: | I use my trailers primarily on salt water and the standard thin wall steel guides had relatively short lifes. They are no longer heavily galvanized like years ago and even though I always rinse the trailer after use, the interior walls of the newer steel guides rot from the inside out.
After my last set failed, I went with aluminum. They are thicker wall, then the steel guides and after 3 years, see no visible signs of corrosion.
I used my existing PVC pipes and mounting hardware.
Look at this on eBay
(2)- 1 1/2" Square 1/8" Thick Aluminum Boat Trailer Square Guide On Poles PAIR, sold by Sturdy Built, Trailer Parts.
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/WEAAAOxy1klRbNhR/s-l200.jpg |
I think those would be ok on an aluminum trailer, but I would want them isolated on a steel trailer, especially if you are dunking into salt water.
My Pacific Trailer came with the side bunks. It is all galvanized steel, and those side posts are still rock solid. When I redid, (lowered), the bunks I put everything back together with lanolin on the bolts. They are still rust free.
My trailer is rarely ever dunked into fresh water.
Harvey
SleepyC 
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Pat Anderson
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City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
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C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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It does not look like you got any responses to your question...I THINK with the extra long u-bolts these should work on my King Saltwater Trailer for guiding our CD25 on. The "goal posts" we have now are useless for sure. I would love to hear from anyone who has actually tried these and how they worked. |
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Missynme
Joined: 23 Jul 2017
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City/Region: Snohomish
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2017
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Missy
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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I used an 8” roller on the end of each bunk fastened with 1/2” galvanized lag bolt w/ washer. This self centers as I pull out of the ramp slowly. Great for single hand on steep deep ramps. I added a self stick felt on the boat to keep from rubbing if it is off to one side a bit. I spaced the roller about 1” clearance on each side. Weird that the felt has never fallen off and no one ever asks what it is for.
https://www.etrailer.com/Boat-Trailer-Parts/CE-Smith/CE29791.html |
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daninPA
Joined: 16 Aug 2020
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City/Region: MOUNT JOY
State or Province: PA
C-Dory Year: 1994
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: NAVIRE
Photos: daninPA
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| Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| Pat Anderson wrote: |
It does not look like you got any responses to your question...I THINK with the extra long u-bolts these should work on my King Saltwater Trailer for guiding our CD25 on. The "goal posts" we have now are useless for sure. I would love to hear from anyone who has actually tried these and how they worked. |
Not yet!
I'm not convinced of the utility or effectiveness of the goal posts (but am open to reconsider based on those with more experience!)
I center on the winch as my aiming point, with right-left aligned to the guide bunks (a bit like lining up the runway in a small aircraft using the numbers as the aim point, and the angle of the runway edges to determine alignment).
I'm considering these roller guides to keep the boat centered in a strong wind or current until I can winch it up tight enough that it's firmly on the rollers and centered. |
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srbaum
Joined: 30 Aug 2010
Posts: 877
City/Region: Portsmouth
State or Province: VA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Osprey
Photos: Osprey
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