2021 spot shrimp

PaulNBriannaLynn · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:12 pm Post subject:

Tom those are Canadian shrimp. With the border closure they cant enter into area 6 and 7, duh Laughing

I was reluctantly involved in a few of those farm land conversions to mudflats. They breach the levies and leave the once fertile and productive farmland a muddy wasteland. While they were never very good at producing salmon smolts, they are excellent for growing mosquitos. Nobody would believe the cost of those engineered tide gates used for those if I put a number down. You would not believe it I guarantee....

starcrafttom · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:01 pm Post subject:

Paul I know that the Leque island dike need one million of Wdfw money in repairs to keep it as a bird watching and pheasant/duck hunting area. I also know that ducks unlimited ( not a friend of duck hunter in my opinion) got paid about 22 million in federal funds to destroy that site and turn it in to a mud pit. No more owls or cranes for people to see, No more pheasant plants and no plans to replace it. The short term duck hunting is not very good and will stop once the cat tails fill in just as they have at the other 5 areas they have done the same . How much you thing WDFW skimmed off that 22 million of federal funds??? They are about to do the same with the lervick property that the tribe is buying, well buying with federal fund so they can convert the land with more federal funds and take another duck hunting site away for the tax payer. An then there is the farmed island unit that is not going to be flooded with federal funds. This is a long standing duck hunting area of state land this is surrounded by other land that could be flooded far easier and cheaper and with no impact to hunter . They will use more federal funds to flood ands destroy land that was gifted to the state for the sole for hunters and other out door uses. Now it will be filed in with cattails, you know just like the other 100 acres or so of pheasant and duck hunting land that were flood and filled in with cattails 20 years ago. Well I got to get back to work so the feds have enough funds to destroy more land that will not produce one more fish without an increase of hatchery out put if at all. just more smolt for the seals and cormorants.

smckean (Tosca) · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:33 pm Post subject:

PaulNBriannaLynn · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:41 pm Post subject:

Ahhh Leque island, I had the pleasure of meeting the owners and discussing this project before I got the hell out of there. Its amazing the good ol boys built that dike over 100 years ago with minimal equipment and it cost nothing. For some reason it takes a million dollars to move some earth in Washington state. Probably have to fund pocket gopher EIS studies, purchase fancy sediment barriers and the permitting process will take years. There's lot of blame with the feds, and you're partially right, but why is it only like this in the blue states? On top of that, Washington is buried in an extra thick layer of bureaucracy, which is the tribes have a stranglehold on any projects with any federal or state funds. Each one has to go through the consultation process with each potentially impacted tribe. Its absolutely insane. Anyway.. I needed to get that off my chest. Carry on Washington with all your craziness.

PaulNBriannaLynn · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:58 pm Post subject:

Bolt decision requires 50% of the potential catch go to tribes. WDFW has to manage for that. Spot shrimp have become increasingly popular both recreationally and as a wholesale product that can retail over $20 a pound. Tribes have been gearing up to get their piece of the pie (as they should). As salmon numbers have dwindled in recent years and Dungeness have also suffered, shrimp is a way to fill in the gap. I know a number of Puget sound tribes have gone all in with shrimping. That's relatively new.. That may be part of the politics of WDFW, but I don't claim to know much about whats happening over there anymore.

T.R. Bauer · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:03 am Post subject:

It's important to remember that well meaning biologists are not the policy makers or at fault. As Tom said, it's politics and money that drive most decisions. It really shouldn't be any surprise to anyone as that is how things work. Many of you have noted how things used it to be, but have forgotten how the increase of the local human population has increased pressure on stocks. It will never be how it used to be unless 5-6 million people move away from Puget Sound. We have the same issues here - it's a constant battle between stake holders fighting for a set quota with commfish normally winning the fight. As far as man made natural habitat restoration? Hahahahaha - that's really a good one....it's far better to not screw it up in the first place Smile

C-Wolfe · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:10 pm Post subject:

smckean (Tosca) · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:33 pm Post subject:

starcrafttom · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:08 pm Post subject:

smckean (Tosca) we are just going to have to agree to disagree about how delusional are and leave it at that.. So how's boating?

smckean (Tosca) · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:32 pm Post subject:

Tom, I imagine you and I will need to agree to disagree about many things.... Wink

Boating is non-existent. For many reasons, I suspect that the first time Tosca will float once again will be when I launch her in order to head to Friday Harbor for the CDGT in May.

P.S. But I am preparing for the shrimp weekends. I hope to go all 3 weekends; I just need to figure out my strategy for where and for how long. I think I will head for the south of Lopez on the 2nd weekend to avoid opening day crowds. Luckily, I launch right here on the island so I am unlikely to have ramp problems.

T.R. Bauer · Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:39 pm Post subject: