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kennharriet



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:32 am    Post subject: New Repower Reply with quote

We are about to push the button on a new Honda 90 for our 22’ Cdory. The 99 Honda BF75 is still running well and has some trade in value. I have shopped the northwest and it appears the best deal all things considered is a local dealer close to home in Lewiston, ID.

Because it is a significant investment, just checking the group for any last minute advice. I’m not fixated on Honda but can save a little by using the existing Honda controls.

As the blizzard rages outside, dreaming of boating... Ken
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jakevolvo@yahoo.com



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A new honda 90 should come with new controls I wouldnt use the old ones, probably wont work anyway. My repower with a new 2019 Honda bf90 installed with new controls and troll control option on the control box was $11,000 at a local dealer here in tacoma wa. Almost 2 years ago anyway.. I would go with the honda, 100 hours of use still looks like the day I brought it home the corrosion protection is phenomenal. I'm a industrial painter by trade and can vouch that in my opinion Honda's have always had the best quality coatings and paint
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thataway



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would think that 1999 controls would be comparable with the 2020/21 motor. Motors especially in higher HP are hard to find in FL. Supply chain apparently disrupted by COVDI 19.

Some of the decision as to which brand would be directed by what service is available. If the dealer is nearby that is certainly a plus.

I have had problems with the coatings on my Honda's especially where there is plastic in the mid section. . I just stripped 80% off with a regular garden hose pressure. It may be that the boat has spent most of its life in the SE. More sun and UV exposure than in WA.

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Nancy and Bud



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We chose a Merc 90 because you can find someone to work on a Merc everywhere you go. Often multiple dealers/shop.

Not so much with the Honda. Do a google search of Honda outboard dealers and see for yourself.

YMMV

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WeekiTiki



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wish my '03 Honda 75 was a 90 but it runs flawlessly

And I can buy a whole lot of gas for eleven grand

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Whidbeydory



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you given Ryan at Sportcraft Marine in Portland Oregon a call. He carries both Honda and Suzuki. we have done quite a few repowers with Ryan over the years and they've all gone very well and have been priced aggressively with no sales tax.
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kennharriet



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I did get a quote from Sportcraft. They were very competitive but by the time I travelled to Portland with the expense of food and lodging for a couple days it did not make sense. I also was not too excited about visiting Portland with the rioting and other nonsense going on.

Riverview Marine locally could match their price and would take my current motor as trade-in. They will do the sea trial across the street in the
Snake River with me present. Thank you though, I heard good things about Sportcraft.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well that sounds like a no-brainer get it in Idaho
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kennharriet



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So repower is complete🙂 With the reliability of a new Honda 90, I am wondering if I really need the 6hp Tohatsu kicker. We also carry the 2.5 hp Suzi for the dingy. Has anyone tried the small Suzi as a kicker for a 22’ Cdory in the event of a main engine failure? The 6hp Tohatsu will push our boat at a max of 5mph regardless of throttle setting, so wondering what the Suzi will do. Would be nice to reduce the 61lb Tohatsu off the stern, even though it has been an awesome motor. Just looking out the window at the ice fog and dreaming of warmer temps and boating🙂
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We used the 2.5 Suzuki on our 25 on our AK trip as both dinghy motor and kicker. The 2.5 would push about 3 mph. We also have a Merc 2 stroke 3.5, which will push about 3.5 mph. Enough to get out of trouble, or at least steerage way.
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Wandering Sagebrush



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kennharriet wrote:
So repower is complete🙂 With the reliability of a new Honda 90, I am wondering if I really need the 6hp Tohatsu kicker. We also carry the 2.5 hp Suzi for the dingy. Has anyone tried the small Suzi as a kicker for a 22’ Cdory in the event of a main engine failure? The 6hp Tohatsu will push our boat at a max of 5mph regardless of throttle setting, so wondering what the Suzi will do. Would be nice to reduce the 61lb Tohatsu off the stern, even though it has been an awesome motor. Just looking out the window at the ice fog and dreaming of warmer temps and boating🙂


Ken, do you have the long shaft Suzuki 2.5? I tried the short shaft on our old boat, without a great deal of success. I think the long shaft would do OK.

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kennharriet



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I have the long shaft, but will give it a go when we get a chance to get it in the water.
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Alan



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="kennharriet"]So repower is complete🙂 With the reliability of a new Honda 90, I am wondering if I really need the 6hp Tohatsu kicker.

Would you rather have a kicker and not need it, or need a kicker and not have it?

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kennharriet



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You make a good point. I have used the kicker a few times to get to a safer place to correct a problem. Once the thermostat stuck closed on the main causing it to overheat and few times I spun a prop. All of these can happen with a new motor.
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hardee



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fellow C-BRAT and neighbor for several years used this logic: "I flew general aviation aircraft for 40 years, and never had a kicker on the airplane. Why would I need one on a boat? Take care of it and it takes care of you."

He ran a single Honda 90 on a 22 Cruiser. It always bothered me when I would go out with him on his boat, Confused not because he didn't have a kicker Shocked but because he didn't have twins Laughing Laughing Laughing

Harvey
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