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colbysmith
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| Quote: | If you have radar on board, and are involved in an accident, and are not using the radar, you will be considered at fault. It is a navigational adjunct, and if it is there, available, you should be using it.
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Hi Harvey,
Hey I know this has come up before. But can you provide a source for this. I think in the past here it was pointed out that while this may be true for commercial vessels, it's not quite the same with private small vessels. Colby |
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hardee
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:39 am Post subject: |
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Colby, I will have to look, but I believe it is in the USCG Col Regs. I need to start checking this before bed time.  I know it has been around here on the site, and there are quotes available.
Harvey
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thataway
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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The "Rules of Navigation" are only required on larger vessels, But we should all have either an electronic or paper copy aboard.
The rules are very clear:
| Quote: | RULE 5 Look-out
Every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper look-out by sight and hearing as well as by all available means appropriate in the prevailing circumstances and conditions so as to make a full appraisal of the situation and of the risk of collision |
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RULE 7 Risk of Collision
(a) Every vessel shall use all available means appropriate to the prevailing circumstances and conditions to determine if risk of collision exists. If there is any doubt such risk shall be deemed to exist.
(b) Proper use shall be made of radar equipment if fitted and operational, including long-range scanning to obtain early warning of risk of collision and radar plotting or equivalent systematic observation of detected objects.
(c) Assumptions shall not be made on the basis of scanty information, especially scanty radar information.
(d) In determining if risk of collision exists the following considerations shall be among those taken into account:
(i) such risk shall be deemed to exist if the compass bearing of an approaching vessel does not appreciably change;
(ii) such risk may sometimes exist even when an appreciable bearing change is evident, particularly when approaching a very large vessel or a tow or when approaching a vessel at close range. |
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gulfcoast john
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Jeez, Bob!
Why don't you ever provide a definitive answer to this kind of question?
Just kidding!!
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hardee
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| Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Thank for posting that Bob.
I have heard some discussion regarding the application of the "larger vessels " term and that where some of us are boating in areas where there are larger vessels, (commercial, for instance container ships, Tug an tows, ferries, etc) especially where we are intersecting with established shipping lanes, that the Rules of Navigation are applicable to those who are boating in those areas.
There was also some discussion as to whether AIS falls into the category of "all available means appropriate in the prevailing circumstances and conditions so as to make a full appraisal of the situation and of the risk of collision."
If it is on board, it is appropriate to use it was the jest of the discussion. This was at a conference presentation session at the Seattle Boot Show University, 2 years ago.
Harvey
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