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trishc00
Joined: 29 Dec 2005
Posts: 25
City/Region: central california
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1998
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
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 Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:15 pm Post subject: CDory appraisal |
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I am considering selling my 1998 22' CDory and was hoping someone could direct me to an appraisal source.
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Da Nag
Joined: 24 Oct 2003
Posts: 2832
City/Region: Port Angeles
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1995
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruise Ship
Vessel Name: Wilbur
Photos: Da Boats
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:19 am Post subject: Re: CDory appraisal |
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| trishc00 wrote: | | I am considering selling my 1998 22' CDory and was hoping someone could direct me to an appraisal source. |
My humble opinion...an appraiser would be a waste of money. There's far more experience here...we've seen a ton of C-Dorys bought and sold. A good starting point is our C-Dory Market Place Reference section - it shows listing prices of boats that have sold, and most of them have pretty detailed descriptions.
Your best bet is to follow up here with more info - engine(s), hours, electronics, trailer, etc. Armed with those details, I'm sure you'll get some good suggestions here.
Without knowing those details...you could be anywhere from $20-35K, depending on options and condition.
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Chivita
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
Posts: 218
City/Region: Hansville
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Chivita
Photos: Chivita
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Few people sell more C-Dorys than Jeff at the factory. If he has the time, he may be able to give you a pretty accurate idea of what the boat will really sell for.
With the boat show coming up, frequently current owners upgrade which can place a lot of used boats on the market. But as well, sometimes people see a C-Dory there for the first time and do not have the funds for a brand new boat. Jeff maybe able to put you in contact with someone looking for a used boat if Jeff does not already have what they are after. |
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trishc00
Joined: 29 Dec 2005
Posts: 25
City/Region: central california
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1998
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the advice. I will get the details together and post. Although I purchased the boat, it was for my dad and he is not able to use the boat anymore. |
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Rabidfish
Dealer
Joined: 29 Jul 2005
Posts: 117
City/Region: Noblesville, Indiana
State or Province: IN
Vessel Name: Les Poisson Enrage'
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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You can also check out this site:
www.nadaguides.com
They have a boat section. Although their info does seem to run low
compared to what the market seems to bear. (at least for C Dorys)
Good Luck!
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Da Nag
Joined: 24 Oct 2003
Posts: 2832
City/Region: Port Angeles
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1995
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruise Ship
Vessel Name: Wilbur
Photos: Da Boats
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Rabidfish wrote: | | They have a boat section. Although their info does seem to run low compared to what the market seems to bear. (at least for C Dorys) |
Whoa...I'll say. Just priced a couple examples of 22 Cruisers that I'm pretty familiar with, and they came up $5-10K less than I've seen them sell for.
But then again, they do state that a 1995 16' Angler with radio and downriggers is worth $4020. Sounds fair to me - anyone want to sell me one? Be glad to give you "full" price... |
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C-Otter
Joined: 02 Nov 2003
Posts: 211
City/Region: Superior
State or Province: WI
C-Dory Year: 1985
C-Dory Model: 22 Classic
Vessel Name: C-Otter
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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I would BURN my 1985 Classic before I would sell it at book.
C-Otter. |
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lloyds
Joined: 02 Aug 2005
Posts: 1724
City/Region: sublimity
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 1996
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: undecided
Photos: 1996 22 Cruiser (Lloyds)
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| The only thing NADA can tell you, that is factual, about C-Dorys or Boston Whalers, or other quality boats, is if their value is something above $00 |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003
Posts: 8650
City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
Photos: Sea Wolf
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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When the gal that sold the 18 footer to Byrdman first contacted me to find out how to list her boat on the site, I told her that we routinely get 3X or more of the NADA prices for our older C-Dorys listed on the site, but she went ahead and listed it for $4000.
BEWARE NADA NONSENSE!!! At least as far as a really good boat is concerned like the C-Dory!
NADA probably starts with the new price of a boat and depreciates it according to a schedule regardless of the retail history of used boats.
A C-Dory doesn't get old and deteriorate like a Bayliner, so why depreciate the resale value according to the same schedule?
Joe.
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FRED & DEB
Joined: 15 Mar 2005
Posts: 35
City/Region: EMMAUS
State or Province: PA
C-Dory Year: 2002
C-Dory Model: 24 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Not Yet Named
Photos: Fred & Deb - TC24
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| Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:37 am Post subject: |
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I was wondering how to calculate the realistic resale value of a TomCat. I have seen several for sale recently on the C- Brat site and their asking prices seem to be really low to me. I understand the principal of supply and demand but these boats are too good to depreciate so quickly. Any comments would be appreciated.
FRED & DEB
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Da Nag
Joined: 24 Oct 2003
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City/Region: Port Angeles
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1995
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruise Ship
Vessel Name: Wilbur
Photos: Da Boats
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| Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 1:21 am Post subject: |
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| FRED & DEB wrote: | | I was wondering how to calculate the realistic resale value of a TomCat. |
That's a tough one...
Unlike the other C-Dory models, the old style Tomcat has been replaced with something quite different. Many would argue, with something that's dramatically improved. Most folks will find the interior layout a big improvement, and the larger cockpit is welcome as well. And while esthetics are subjective, my guess is most people will find the new style a more visually pleasing boat.
From what I've seen here, 22's that are a few years old have typically lost only about 15-20% vs. new. With respect to the old style Tomcat, I think the differential would need to be quite a bit larger for most folks to consider them used.
Time will tell... |
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nzfisher
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City/Region: san francisco
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| Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:01 am Post subject: your possible sale of cdory |
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Read about your possible sale. My wife and I are interested in a 22'. Maybe if you could email particulars we could talk about your boat if you are going to sell it. We are in S.F. so maybe we could take a look if it is what we want. We were going to purchase a little later but if condition and price is right we could take the boat sooner.
Kurt & Helga |
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Byrdman
Joined: 06 Nov 2003
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City/Region: Cumberland River, Clarksville,
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| Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:22 am Post subject: |
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Yes Joe... I did ONLY PAY $4000 for the boat...as was it's condition then. Now..after close to about 12-14K worth of "improvements"... to include in fairness a brand new aluminum trailer and a "newer" 2003 50hp Suzi 4 stroke still under warantee.... and a very tricked out custom camper canvas... I am back to almost $20K range for this neat boat. Yes, it is a bit special to me due to being a classic, and, it is the last 18' C-Dory made. We do need to be careful when telling what others paid for the boats...often, like this case, others have no clue on follow on monies spent.
Same deal with my ORIGINAL 24'TomCat. Most had no idea I spent an additional 8-9K on her gettting her "long cruise ready" rather than a real nice day boat. At the same time I agree with the two TC's being two radically differant boat "platforms".... but, basically the same Cat hull as far as ride/comfort, and a VERY LARGE differance in OVERALL IN THE WATER WEIGHT AND THE POWER NEEDED TO PUSH HER. Less power needed to push the original, less tow vehicle needed to tow the original.
Again, before I spent the money on a new CD25....for sure another great option for a boat would be the original TC24. Even the older TC24 has much more cockpit room than the CD25. It is a great boat...but make sure you pay attention to the trailer set up for sure.
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Aloysius, Sold to Brother Mike Mar16
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Plan C
Joined: 16 Apr 2004
Posts: 244
City/Region: Port Townsend
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Susie Q
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| Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: NADA |
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Not to be surprised that NADA would be off the mark on boats. NADA = National Auto Dealer Association. If you see a National Boat Dealers' Association, if it existed, would probably not be considered the best source for auto prices.
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003
Posts: 8650
City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
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| Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Byrdman wrote: | Yes Joe... I did ONLY PAY $4000 for the boat...as was it's condition then. Now..after close to about 12-14K worth of "improvements"... to include in fairness a brand new aluminum trailer and a "newer" 2003 50hp Suzi 4 stroke still under warantee.... and a very tricked out custom camper canvas... I am back to almost $20K range for this neat boat. Yes, it is a bit special to me due to being a classic, and, it is the last 18' C-Dory made. We do need to be careful when telling what others paid for the boats...often, like this case, others have no clue on follow on monies spent.
Same deal with my ORIGINAL 24'TomCat. Most had no idea I spent an additional 8-9K on her gettting her "long cruise ready" rather than a real nice day boat. At the same time I agree with the two TC's being two radically differant boat "platforms".... but, basically the same Cat hull as far as ride/comfort, and a VERY LARGE differance in OVERALL IN THE WATER WEIGHT AND THE POWER NEEDED TO PUSH HER. Less power needed to push the original, less tow vehicle needed to tow the original.
Again, before I spent the money on a new CD25....for sure another great option for a boat would be the original TC24. Even the older TC24 has much more cockpit room than the CD25. It is a great boat...but make sure you pay attention to the trailer set up for sure. |
Sea Wolf wrote earlier:
"When the gal that sold the 18 footer to Byrdman first contacted me to find out how to list her boat on the site, I told her that we routinely get 3X or more of the NADA prices for our older C-Dorys listed on the site, but she went ahead and listed it for $4000.
BEWARE NADA NONSENSE!!! At least as far as a really good boat is concerned like the C-Dory!
NADA probably starts with the new price of a boat and depreciates it according to a schedule regardless of the retail history of used boats.
A C-Dory doesn't get old and deteriorate like a Bayliner, so why depreciate the resale value according to the same schedule?"
Patrick-
I think if you read what I wrote in the first paragraph above, you can see that it only references the deal you made for your boat in such a way to show that the NADA suggested price was out of line compared to what we typically are able to sell these boats for, which is the topic of this thread.
I'll apologize for making the reference specifically to you in the deal, but the thread on the boat's listing and selling also tells the story of the sale. I had no intent to embarass you or divulge private information in the process. Sorry if it offended you.
You've done an outstanding job of restoring the boat to like new condition, and should be complimented for it. Looks better that any other 18 I've ever seen!
See ya' in Seattle!
Joe. |
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