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WeekiTiki



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:54 pm    Post subject: Re: The rich... Reply with quote

krc wrote:
... don't generally need to sell assets at fire-sale prices. They usually have enough wealth to hold onto assets and wait until the value recovers. We saw this with housing as the impact as disproportionately on the lower/mid end of market. The wealthy areas did not fall as much because... they had enough money to not have to sale.

We shall see what happens. Predictions of doom and gloom are around all the time - and sometime they can be right. But rarely....


Somehow my first job paid less than two dollars an hour and I still managed to retire at 47. What's wrong with you young folks? Living is easy, and fun; enjoy it!

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tsturm



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MilesandMiles wrote:
Don't try to wake up boomers. They have no input jack. They live in their own little world and can't stand people pointing out what's happening outside their boomer reality. Don't try to compete with them either. They have all the money (including yours) If they're into something (like cdorys) the prices will stay high. Thankfully they're on their way out, hopefully the last one exiting the world will leave the lights on for us.



Sounds like some buddy's mommy & daddy didn't beat there little ass enough Thumbs Up
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WeekiTiki



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG, Lovely!

I had girls

And they both kick ass
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BillE



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For pricing reference, a new 2020 C-22 Cruiser with Yamaha 90 on a trailer at Master Marine in Washington lists a price of $81,890 now on sale for $78,741.

https://www.mastermarine.com/boats-for-sale/2020-c-dory-22-cruiser-mount-vernon-washington-7462392/

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like my 15 year not so old CD 22 Cruiser priced at 43,500 is under priced then, but if I let it go for that Someone would be getting a really very good deal.

WHOA There though, SleepyC IS NOT for sale.

Harvey
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not the first time I've heard this same sentiment in regards to "Boomers"
from a thirty something

Girl I know spews the same ideals

What they don't realize is just how high the interest rate was

Remember my first house being over 17%

and first boat was even higher

back in '82
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WeekiTiki



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillE wrote:
For pricing reference, a new 2020 C-22 Cruiser with Yamaha 90 on a trailer at Master Marine in Washington lists a price of $81,890 now on sale for $78,741.

https://www.mastermarine.com/boats-for-sale/2020-c-dory-22-cruiser-mount-vernon-washington-7462392/


Yea, and back in '82 just the interest would have been over a grand a month

it was hard making those payments

Although it's all relevant

Boat would have cost 20% of what it does now

And work would have paid 20% of what it does now

But that high interest
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Nancy and Bud



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hardee wrote:
Sounds like my 15 year not so old CD 22 Cruiser priced at 43,500 is under priced then, but if I let it go for that Someone would be getting a really very good deal.

WHOA There though, SleepyC IS NOT for sale.

Harvey
SleepyC Moon



The value of any C-Dory IMO is in relation to how well it is equipped.

Some are basically bare bones with limited equipment while other are fully tricked out and need nothing but gas and you are good to go.

We expect delivery of Alexa Jane today. It is at the low end equipment wise. GPS, power steering, home made camper back. But is has a brand new trailer which is a bonus as well as an Honda engine that has been recently been serviced to the tune of $2,000.

No anchor winch, autopilot, trim tabs.

We considered Alexa Jane, a 2005 model, a bargain to $26,900. The survey done in January valued her at $37,000.

The boat listing that started this discussion seems to be attractively priced.

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Marco Flamingo



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of you beat me on retirement age, but it would be hard to beat me on the lowest starting hourly wage. I worked for the family business, the last bastion of indentured servitude.

I hadn't heard the whine about boomers having everything and leaving only pimples for the younger generation(s). I can't complain now, but thinking about my "financial history," it was anything but an easy climb to prosperity. I remember three times when I made an interstate employment and residence change with only what I could fit in the trunk. Twice in my 20's and once in my 30's. So I'm not very sympathetic to somebody lamenting the repossession of their giant TV (which wouldn't even have fit in my trunk).

Disclaimer: I have no idea what this thread is all about.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can beat that, Marco! When I started my business I worked very hard, for no pay at all. Then, after a few years of solid growth, we hit the Great Recession, where I worked even harder while losing money every day that I was open.
Working for negative income makes minimum wage look very attractive!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MilesandMiles wrote:
Don't try to wake up boomers. They have no input jack. They live in their own little world and can't stand people pointing out what's happening outside their boomer reality. Don't try to compete with them either. They have all the money (including yours) If they're into something (like cdorys) the prices will stay high. Thankfully they're on their way out, hopefully the last one exiting the world will leave the lights on for us.


Now. You’ve gone and pissed me off junior, and that’s hard to do. Relax, Get your allowance and go to your favorite Jamba Juice hangout and have an$8.00 cup of Kool Aid. Lol!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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.......but it would be hard to beat me on the lowest starting hourly wage. I worked for the family business, the last bastion of indentured servitude.

I'll take on that challenge!

My family operated a small manufacturing business (leather goods). As kids my brother and I had to spend hours and hours in what the family called "the shop". Starting at about age 10, my dad insisted that we kids work throughout all of summer school vacation. He did allow each of us to work every other day (but if I remember right that was mostly because if my brother and I were at the shop together, we would get into mischief). So as a grade schooler, I put in 8 to 10 hours days every other day all summer long.

Well, maybe when I was 12 or so, we complained that none of our friends had to give up their summers like this, so my dad decided that he would pay us at the rate of $0.50 per hour (in about 1957). Can you beat that? Even if you do, how about this....we diligently filled out time cards all summer; but when the summer was over, my dad simply never paid us. Here I am at 75 years old, and I still find it hard to forgive my father for this....not for the working, but for reneging on the paying of our "salary".

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was maintenance man at a Girl Scout camp Age 16 thr 20. $100 a month including a tent with a cot t sleep in (I had to bring my own sleeping bag), Up at 5AM to start the diesel generator, and stoke the fires to have hot water in the kitchen. Official duties were over at about 7 PM, after I had sterilized all of the dishes for 200 campers. However most nights I then drove out to check the girls who were on "camp outs)--sometimes running a 5 mile trail to where they were camped. Then there was the occasional poacher who happened to come into the camp area, and had to dealt with. I was lucky to go to bed by 11. So I figured I worked 126 hours a week x 4 = $504 a month. That was about 20 cents a hour. Most of the day was manual labor; splitting wood, hauling garbage, cleaning septic systems, sterilizing the dishes. Occasionally I got to life guard on lake trips or teach canoeing/rowing. The best job I ever had!! (1953 thru 56) era.

During my internship most of the year was 36 hours on and 12 hours off. It turns out that this was almost exactly the time I worked in the Girl Scout camp but I was only paid $50 a month: 10 cents an hour. That was 1961-62.

Both of the counted toward Social Security quarters.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In 1982-3 the prime rate was 21% US savings bonds were paying 16 % .
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was maintenance man at a Girl Scout camp Age 16 thr 20---"

Bob when you write your autobiography---which you should do---that job should get at least a chapter!
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