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Tom1Tom



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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2020 10:51 pm    Post subject: Rode storage Reply with quote

My "new to me" 22' Cruiser will be in the water this week here in Alaska. I am using 400' of 1/2" rode and 20' of chain. I'm curious if on deck storage is preferable to below deck. I will not be using a windless. Any photos would be helpful.
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2020 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put mine in a milk crate on the deck between the hatch and the bow and it work fine and fits fine for mine. I have three times the chain and 300 feet of rode so it is a bit different. I actually really like it there - no smell!
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2020 11:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Rode storage Reply with quote

Tom1Tom wrote:
My "new to me" 22' Cruiser will be in the water this week here in Alaska. I am using 400' of 1/2" rode and 20' of chain. I'm curious if on deck storage is preferable to below deck. I will not be using a windless. Any photos would be helpful.


I would definitely add more chain. You didn't say what kind of anchor, but a good anchor and maybe one size over size plus double the boat length of chain would be my minimum for salt water anchoring -- tides, currents and winds.

Keeping it on the foredeck will work (you out -- on retrieval, for sure.) Just be very careful going forward along that side deck, if that's how you do it. If you are keeping it in a milk crate, or other box type container, be sure it is secured to the deck so that it doesn't get pitched off at some inopportune time.

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2020 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! Got 200 feet of rode and six foot of chain :lol

But yea, would think more chain if I was anchoring in the Pacific at any depth.

Had to order a tiny plastic float to mark my anchor and pull it straight up...

last time out solo had one helluva time pulling in the anchor in heavy seas

and that was in six foot depth

Got a price on 1/4" G7 chain but can't buy less than 100 LF wholesale

Anybody want to split some? Probably cost as much to ship as what you'd save

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sure would hate to have to pull that 400' of rode by hand! Shocked But my windlass has made a whimp of me. lol.
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2020 12:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Rode storage Reply with quote

Tom1Tom wrote:
My "new to me" 22' Cruiser will be in the water this week here in Alaska. I am using 400' of 1/2" rode and 20' of chain. I'm curious if on deck storage is preferable to below deck. I will not be using a windless. Any photos would be helpful.


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Got out and enjoy your boat. I hear the halibut are showing up to the south and the shrimping has been great.
I took my kid to the tide pools on bishop beach Saturday. At 2 in the afternoon there wasn’t a breath of wind in Homer. I told my wife that it must be our boat that causes the wind to blow there.

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2020 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the problem with 400' of rode: threading it down thru the deck pipe into the chain locker. You also want to put some type of restraining system to keep the rode from spilling over onto the bunk.. I used Sunbrella Canvas, bolted at the bottom to the fiberglass lip, and with a 1/2" dowel thru a tube in the top of the sunbrella and tied to each side with a clip bolted on one of the legs of the bow pulpit:

It Is much faster and easier to put the rode into a plastic milk crate, or 5 gallon bucket, and coil the line as it falls, Also faster to deploy. (Always secure the bitter end of the line to some thing solid!). A crate allows the line to dry out faster. You often don't want foul smelling mud in the V berth area.

If you are young and healthy--then hauling the anchor rode up by hand is possible. But it may lead to back issues later in life. In the long run the windlass is much easier for us old folks. Also the 8 plait line stores in less than half the space of the 3 strand nylon line.

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An anchor retrieval system works well too with the float if you have room to maneuver in the anchorage.
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2020 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recommendations for length of chain is one and half times the length of the boat minimum. So for a 22 C-Dory it is 33ft. Most folks go with around 50ft in length or a bit more.

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2020 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those of you who are using a milk crate like me to put the rode in,(works great) how have you secured it? Is the milk crate bolted through the deck or is it like mine where it is held in place with straps going to the bow rail

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2020 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I anchor in relatively shallow water. My rode is just laid on the fore deck with the chain on top when it comes up. When it is dry it goes into the locker.
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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ssobol wrote:
I anchor in relatively shallow water. My rode is just laid on the fore deck with the chain on top when it comes up. When it is dry it goes into the locker.


This is exactly how we handled our anchor line/chain set up on the 22. With the chain lying on top of the rode it remained secure, some would say not so good, but we made out fine this way. We never let the line dry just dropped in the locker wet, that's what the drain if for and we had to trailer so leaving it on deck was not an option.

Flagging the line every 25ft also helps to keep track of how much is deploy, WM sells a numerical flag kit for just a few $.

You’ll never need to 400 foot unless you have an emergency unless you decide to anchor up and stationary fish; something we rarely did.

20 foot of chain should hold fine except in the most extreme saturation and for that you should be in a sheltered cove somewhere. But for safety would go with 30ft or better on the chain.

The buoy retrieval system works great as others have said and can be used for shrimp pots.

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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any wave that can pitch stuff off of the shelf or counter in the cabin could certainly pitch the anchor and chain off the foredeck, and that would get the rode following it. Could happen, and probably not when you want to set an anchor. Milk carton, wooden box, or what ever; I would secure that ground tackle somehow and secure the container.

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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hardee wrote:
Any wave that can pitch stuff off of the shelf or counter in the cabin could certainly pitch the anchor and chain off the foredeck
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We didn't place the anchor on deck it was secure in the anchor roller. Yea, you need to watch the line when underway and if rough seas are encountered we'd bring it all back in the cockpit or feed down the tube, but it would have to be really rough out and that only happened once or twice.
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