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Tom1Tom
Joined: 21 Jul 2019 Posts: 3 City/Region: Soldotna
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 10:51 pm Post subject: Rode storage |
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My "new to me" 22' Cruiser will be in the water this week here in Alaska. I am using 400' of 1/2" rode and 20' of chain. I'm curious if on deck storage is preferable to below deck. I will not be using a windless. Any photos would be helpful. _________________ Tom |
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1807 City/Region: Wasilla
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Whisperer
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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I put mine in a milk crate on the deck between the hatch and the bow and it work fine and fits fine for mine. I have three times the chain and 300 feet of rode so it is a bit different. I actually really like it there - no smell! |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12637 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
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Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 11:58 pm Post subject: Re: Rode storage |
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Tom1Tom wrote: | My "new to me" 22' Cruiser will be in the water this week here in Alaska. I am using 400' of 1/2" rode and 20' of chain. I'm curious if on deck storage is preferable to below deck. I will not be using a windless. Any photos would be helpful. |
I would definitely add more chain. You didn't say what kind of anchor, but a good anchor and maybe one size over size plus double the boat length of chain would be my minimum for salt water anchoring -- tides, currents and winds.
Keeping it on the foredeck will work (you out -- on retrieval, for sure.) Just be very careful going forward along that side deck, if that's how you do it. If you are keeping it in a milk crate, or other box type container, be sure it is secured to the deck so that it doesn't get pitched off at some inopportune time.
Harvey
SleepyC
 _________________ Though in our sleep we are not conscious of our activity or surroundings, we should not, in our wakefulness, be unconscious of our sleep. |
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WeekiTiki
Joined: 12 Jun 2019 Posts: 412 City/Region: Weeki Wachee
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Just Cruisin'
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 7:31 am Post subject: |
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Wow! Got 200 feet of rode and six foot of chain :lol
But yea, would think more chain if I was anchoring in the Pacific at any depth.
Had to order a tiny plastic float to mark my anchor and pull it straight up...
last time out solo had one helluva time pulling in the anchor in heavy seas
and that was in six foot depth
Got a price on 1/4" G7 chain but can't buy less than 100 LF wholesale
Anybody want to split some? Probably cost as much to ship as what you'd save _________________ Weeki Wachee
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colbysmith
Joined: 02 Oct 2011 Posts: 4916 City/Region: Madison
State or Province: WI
C-Dory Year: 2009
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Traveler
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:53 am Post subject: |
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I sure would hate to have to pull that 400' of rode by hand! But my windlass has made a whimp of me. lol. |
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Fishcatcher907
Joined: 05 Apr 2019 Posts: 71 City/Region: Soldotna
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Legacy
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: Rode storage |
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Tom1Tom wrote: | My "new to me" 22' Cruiser will be in the water this week here in Alaska. I am using 400' of 1/2" rode and 20' of chain. I'm curious if on deck storage is preferable to below deck. I will not be using a windless. Any photos would be helpful. |
Hello neighbor.
Got out and enjoy your boat. I hear the halibut are showing up to the south and the shrimping has been great.
I took my kid to the tide pools on bishop beach Saturday. At 2 in the afternoon there wasn’t a breath of wind in Homer. I told my wife that it must be our boat that causes the wind to blow there. _________________ Cheers |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21354 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Here is the problem with 400' of rode: threading it down thru the deck pipe into the chain locker. You also want to put some type of restraining system to keep the rode from spilling over onto the bunk.. I used Sunbrella Canvas, bolted at the bottom to the fiberglass lip, and with a 1/2" dowel thru a tube in the top of the sunbrella and tied to each side with a clip bolted on one of the legs of the bow pulpit:
It Is much faster and easier to put the rode into a plastic milk crate, or 5 gallon bucket, and coil the line as it falls, Also faster to deploy. (Always secure the bitter end of the line to some thing solid!). A crate allows the line to dry out faster. You often don't want foul smelling mud in the V berth area.
If you are young and healthy--then hauling the anchor rode up by hand is possible. But it may lead to back issues later in life. In the long run the windlass is much easier for us old folks. Also the 8 plait line stores in less than half the space of the 3 strand nylon line. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1807 City/Region: Wasilla
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Whisperer
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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An anchor retrieval system works well too with the float if you have room to maneuver in the anchorage. |
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bridma
Joined: 13 Sep 2011 Posts: 1155 City/Region: Comox
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2009
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Nomad
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Recommendations for length of chain is one and half times the length of the boat minimum. So for a 22 C-Dory it is 33ft. Most folks go with around 50ft in length or a bit more.
Martin. |
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C-Val
Joined: 15 Sep 2012 Posts: 296 City/Region: White Rock
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C-Dory Year: 1988
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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For those of you who are using a milk crate like me to put the rode in,(works great) how have you secured it? Is the milk crate bolted through the deck or is it like mine where it is held in place with straps going to the bow rail
thanks
David and Val _________________ Writing a sea story with my C-Dory !
1982 22' Classic Popeye
1981 22' Classic Bad Boy Brutus
1988 22' Angler |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3559 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 12:08 am Post subject: |
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I anchor in relatively shallow water. My rode is just laid on the fore deck with the chain on top when it comes up. When it is dry it goes into the locker. |
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breausaw
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 1222 City/Region: Anchorage
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Triple J
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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ssobol wrote: | I anchor in relatively shallow water. My rode is just laid on the fore deck with the chain on top when it comes up. When it is dry it goes into the locker. |
This is exactly how we handled our anchor line/chain set up on the 22. With the chain lying on top of the rode it remained secure, some would say not so good, but we made out fine this way. We never let the line dry just dropped in the locker wet, that's what the drain if for and we had to trailer so leaving it on deck was not an option.
Flagging the line every 25ft also helps to keep track of how much is deploy, WM sells a numerical flag kit for just a few $.
You’ll never need to 400 foot unless you have an emergency unless you decide to anchor up and stationary fish; something we rarely did.
20 foot of chain should hold fine except in the most extreme saturation and for that you should be in a sheltered cove somewhere. But for safety would go with 30ft or better on the chain.
The buoy retrieval system works great as others have said and can be used for shrimp pots. _________________ Jay
2007 22ft C-Dory Triple J 2007-2012
2007 25ft C-Dory Triple J 2012-2018
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12637 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Any wave that can pitch stuff off of the shelf or counter in the cabin could certainly pitch the anchor and chain off the foredeck, and that would get the rode following it. Could happen, and probably not when you want to set an anchor. Milk carton, wooden box, or what ever; I would secure that ground tackle somehow and secure the container.
Harvey
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breausaw
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 1222 City/Region: Anchorage
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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hardee wrote: | Any wave that can pitch stuff off of the shelf or counter in the cabin could certainly pitch the anchor and chain off the foredeck
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We didn't place the anchor on deck it was secure in the anchor roller. Yea, you need to watch the line when underway and if rough seas are encountered we'd bring it all back in the cockpit or feed down the tube, but it would have to be really rough out and that only happened once or twice. |
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