Wanting more anchor

Storm Dog · Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:35 am Post subject: Wanting more anchor

I'm considering more anchor for the boat. Can i mount a 20# Vulcan or even a larger danforth type anchor without modifying the roller on our 25? It currently has a 13# on it. The purchase survey estimated 20' 1/4" chain and 200' nylon rode. "Bitter end not sighted". Does this mean I need to learn how to tie a monkey's fist ?

Glenn

ssobol · Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 11:48 am Post subject: Re: Wanting more anchor

alainP · Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 11:55 am Post subject:

I have a 9kg Vulcan on my 25 and could not be happier with it. Great anchor, sets very fast (in sand anyway). I have the articulated Lewmar roller, works well with it.

Storm Dog · Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 12:51 pm Post subject:

I have the articulated Lewmar roller, works well with it.

I am in a foreign and dangerous location (N.Y.). I only have 2 days to provision the boat and be away on the water. I won't have time for that install. Do you think it'll work with the stock roller seen in my photos?

Storm Dog · Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 12:54 pm Post subject:

Means the surveyor did not bother to actually pull the rode out of the boat to inspect it.

Should have done it to not only inspect the condition and quantity of rode, but to also inspect the bottom of the anchor locker. Sometimes they develop leaks into the hull or for evidence that the overboard drain is not working.

Darn. Too true.

alainP · Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 3:20 pm Post subject:

Looking at the picture of your roller, I would say it should work. Just take it easy and go slow the first few times you use the windlass especially as the anchor nears the roller.

thataway · Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 11:39 pm Post subject:

The Vulcan or Ronca should be fine. You want to pull out all of the rode. If you are not getting water under the bunk or floor platform, the locker should be fine. I found that the 25's seem to have less problems with the anchor locker than the 22's.

When you get the bitter end of the anchor rode out--take some light line--1/8" to 1/4" and tie one end to the eye bolt nut which should on the inside of your bow eye. If none, then get a 1 x 2" stick several inches long and tie the thinner line to it. then take that to the end of the rode--best to make a very tight back splice and then put a pass or two of the thin line thru the bitter end of the main line-don't tie a monkey's fist. You ant to be able to get that line out of there. if you need it, either to tie a fender to it, for temporary abandonment, or if you need to add more anchor line. (Put multiple red marks (electrical ties, paint, plastic dip on the last 3 feet of the anchor rode to the bitter end, so you can stop before you get to the thin line. If you need to sever the line, then the thin line is easy to cut, and then tie two bowlines to join two anchor rides together.

Marco Flamingo · Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 10:49 am Post subject: Re: Wanting more anchor

hardee · Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 12:55 pm Post subject:

Mark, that should give you close to 50 foot depth at high tide, so to be really safe, 40 foot depth max and you should have it covered, even allowing for the water level to bow height. That will cover a lot of anchoring and anchorages.

You do want to make sure that windlass is in good working order, hand weighing would not be pleasant even if it was possible.

Harvey
SleepyC Moon

Storm Dog · Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 2:18 pm Post subject:

Thanks everyone for all the advice and info!

Glenn

Pacificcoast101 · Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 3:02 pm Post subject:

We use our boat for diving, which means we anchor once or twice every time we use the boat. We have a stainless Bruce type anchor and 400 feet of chain. We usually use 125-150 feet of chain at most of our dive sites. I got tired of having to re-splice the rode and also having some rodes slip in the windlass. I don't have any issue with dragging anchor. Most of the time, the chain alone holds us in place.

ricka · Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 3:35 pm Post subject: Anchor and windless

Phil,
What is the brand of the bow roller you show on your TomCat? The one that came stock on ours ( A Lewmar I believe ) has no way to pin the Anchor in the stowed position like yours. I have installed the lewmar chain stop but would feel better having a second safety pin. I also installed a Lewmar Profish 1000 and we have had trouble with it not wanting to feed the chain out continuously when dropping.
Any Ideas of what I may be doing wrong?
Rick

Pacificcoast101 · Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 3:50 pm Post subject:

It was the stock roller on our 2008 Tomcat.

hardee · Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 3:57 pm Post subject:

Phil, another question for you. Do those colored blocks that fit into the chain stay, and do they last. Just looking it seems that they would work themselves out and fall away.

Harvey
SleepyC Moon

smckean (Tosca) · Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 4:39 pm Post subject: