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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:47 pm    Post subject: Problem of the day Reply with quote

I am looking for something to glue or tape the drive coupler to the glass turntable plate in the boat's microwave. The thing bounces off the wheels and disengages from the coupler when the boat is underway. The oven is mounted too high for short little Lois to see inside to fix it, and I am too old, clumsy and impatient to put it back in place very quickly.

Duct tape works for about a half dozen bags of popcorn before its adhesive melts and leaves a gooey mess. Loctite Stick'n Seal, which is advertised as microwave safe, looked like it was going to work but turned to a gooey mess the first time we used the oven.

I haven't tried plain old super glue yet but I can get a fresh bottle of it and see. I just have a feeling it isn't going to stay stuck. Maybe the stuff used to stick rear view mirrors on a windshield would work.

The coupler gizmo is plastic with a rubbery feeling surface where it touches the glass plate. When it was stuck to the plate with duct tape the whole works stayed in place pretty good but the tape didn't last.

I have learned through online research that whatever is used has to be free of any bubbles that could blow up. An epoxy like JB Weld might be a little too porous when it sets.

I don't mind experimenting a little but I don't want to go broke trying to find the perfect stickum. The microwave oven itself only cost sixty nine bucks.

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish that my boat problems involved popping popcorn....lucky guy!

Things are popping though, I've got most of mine solved for the moment!

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check Amazon for High Temp double stick tape. There are a number which are advertised and there should be one which works. We have the same problem, but the admiral fixes it...something to do with my having dropped one of those glass plates years ago....
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Problem of the day Reply with quote

TyBoo wrote:
...I have learned through online research that whatever is used has to be free of any bubbles that could blow up. An epoxy like JB Weld might be a little too porous when it sets.
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Don't want to use an metal filled epoxy either.

Have to be careful that the glue join does not create a hot spot in the glass when cooking.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before launching the boat stuff a big bath towel in the microwave on top of the plate so it doesn’t bounce around and it should hold the plate in place.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JB Weld might work. When we were in Tahiti, a fellow cruiser fixed a diesel cracked block with the stuff. He was headed for New Zealand. Make sure it is spread evenly and don't mix any air in it.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have any right in hand but I have used "Gorilla Double-stick Tape" for a window mirror, and for (actually) a lot of things and have been very satisfied. Sticks on glass, metal and plastic so far.

Also Super Glue Gel might work and give you time to get it together before it goes off.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Harvey, I have some of that Gorilla double stick! That is nasty stuff. Not forgiving at all. You better be sure you get get what you’re sticking where you want it the first time.

I’m going to try that next! If it gets gooey and lets go I’ll try searching for the high temp stuff like Bob suggested.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, and it is hard not to get your fingers in it Embarassed

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for being a smart-ass on your problem, to be serious if the double stick tape doesn't work how about using hi-temp exhaust gasket silicone? Some of the thickened epoxies can have metal in them that could react to the microwaves.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The double stick tape that is the standard for most everything made, is called 3M VHB tape. VHB is used for mirrors and also a lot of the trim on vehicles. It is also what is used to bond windows in boats.
VHB can be had at Lowe’s or Home Depot, or on line through Amazon. When you apply is, it can never be repositioned.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I was up at 3:00am reading this thread and trying out some tape. Thanks for the suggestions.

The VHB sounded promising so I looked it up and remembered that I already had something very similar. It's Scotch Extreme Mounting Tape and it is a thick, dense, black foam double sticky tape. I used some to stick a piece of plastic on the bottom of a mason jar and zapped it for a minute on high. It held up good and stayed stuck to the glass very good and the plastic pretty good. It's a little thick and might lift the plate off the wheels but it is worth a try. A razor blade, lighter fluid and Goo Gone got it off the jar.

Then I tried the Gorilla tape that I got for sticking vinyl flooring down. It stuck well but softened up in the microwave to where the plastic piece pulled off the glass easily. If the thicker tape won't work I might give this stuff a shot. I tried the solvents to get it off the glass and then threw the jar in the trash.

I'm going to run down to the boat basin and check the setting on the new shorepower heaters and bring the microwave plate home to fiddle around with. Then I'll probably need a nap.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Admiral says, no glue, because if you spill (more likely that the skipper will do that), you cannot get under the plate to clean it up. Thus, she will continue to wrap the plate in towels...and put it back on the rollers.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got lucky with mine - the coupler lifts off the drive shaft so it goes with the plate.

I trimmed up a piece of the black foam double stick tape to fit the spindle and stuck it to the plate. A minute on high in the home microwave and it stayed stuck but the tape did get a little soft. Lots of heat build up at the center too.

With the microwave up high in the boat at least when she blows it’ll go through the roof and not the deck so we shouldn’t sink.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another possibility would be to use a small amount of Permatex (Red) High Temperature RTV Silicone Sealant.
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