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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:02 pm    Post subject: '03 22 Cruiser Work in Progress Reply with quote

OK, so all seems good with the motor now

Been told to go run it hard due to valves having carbon build up

Fueled and ready to go

But:

While replacing aft bilge pump which looks pretty decent

I've run across this which does not...


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right now

Think I'll just fill those holes up with Marine-Tex

And go run the fuel out of it
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got to be some way to keep these fuel cells in place

Without all the holes drilled in the floor

What would or have y'all already done?

Bet there's a thread on here already
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting an idea of just how light these boats are

Not much floor there

Certainly not my old John Allmand where the gunnels were one inch thick

Going to have to cut this mess out

Guess that wood is what we'd call 02 "oh too" thin

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are screw holes where a strip of material (metal, wood or fiberglass was screwed in to help hold the tank in place. There may have been some "straps" also screwed in.

Best practice is to over drill the hole, and check for core moisture. If only a little, then clean out the wet material, and fill with thickened epoxy. The Marine Tex is a little thicker than I like, and "neat" (unthickened) epoxy should be painted on the adjacent core material.

Yes, the inner layer laminate is relatively thing. The core makes it more like and "I" beam, and gives it a lot of strength. The outer layer is considerably thicker.

The best practice, after you have filled the holes, and addressed any core issue, is to fiberglass a piece of material--foam, wood, PVC lumber in place as a batten to put screws into to both hold the tank in place, and perhaps to hold battery boxes if they are in the center in place. Screws into PVC lumber for example, will not cause any "core problems". The boat will then be good for the next 50 years.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the strip of starboard and starboard bulkhead were there,
along with the strap that looks to have never been undone

Port side seems to be good, screws are tight

Actually think I'll just temporarily fill these holes

Go run the boat out of fuel

Then remove the tanks and fiberglass as you say "a batten" in place for each

There's 17 years of gunk under and behind those tanks

The batteries and isolation switch are in the starboard rear locker,
up and away from the bilge
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there not a space under those holes that would hold water?

So I enlarge the holes in order to get a necked-down hose inside to vacuum them out

Have no clue how much water could be there

It's saturated pretty good

Could see water puddling in the largest hole

And when I opened up the smaller ones with a screwdriver, water came out
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The water will be in the core. If you can keep water out of the area, let the holes "breath"--that with some heat may help to dry out. But, if you see water pooling, that suggests some significant wet core in that area. The "space" there is fill with balsa core.

Even though the other side appears to be "sealed" experience is that often water intrusion still occurs.

The next issue is to find out how much core is wet, and if there is any break down the core.

My 2006 boat had the "cleats" or battens glassed in--hopefully that has been the practice since then.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, this is poor construction

I'll glass it in the way it should have been originally

But for now it's temporarily plugged with bolts, washers and silicone



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally put the boat in the water Thursday

Maybe put 60 miles on it

Sea fog rolled in mid afternoon and we, dog an I stayed out the night

Little Honda 75 burned about half a tank

I was really feeling my decrepitness with all the bending over in the berth

This thing is tight
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have come to the conclusion that I'm just going...

To do away with those plastic bulkheads forward of the fuel cells

Thinking I'll glass in all the screw holes

And just 5200 the small strips back down

I like the ability to see the fuel levels

Suppose these were just aesthetics anyway, right?

Too bad they're not simply removable for cutting-boards Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In later versions, viewing slots were cut into the panels.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my 2004 22 there were no covers. I liked seeing the fuel level also. Wish I could see the level on my 25 but they are under the cockpit sole. As far as tight crawling into the berth, it gets easier with muscle memory. The other alternative is to sleep on the dining table or making the opening bigger.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WeekiTiki wrote:
Yea, this is poor construction

I'll glass it in the way it should have been originally

But for now it's temporarily plugged with bolts, washers and silicone



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I would stay away from silicone except for the for the acrylic glazing in the bomar hatch. Nothing sticks to silicone (residue).

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly think I'll have to cut some of this out in order to

Dry out the interior

Looked to be pretty wet

Since I'm not familiar with how bad this balsa decays

Have no idea what the extent will be yet

It's a shame that they drilled into the floor at all

Especially just to add some BS that wasn't needed
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