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Avidmagnum12



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob .....ran a shiver up my spine reading about your incident. It can happen to anyone. I have always disliked the swim step that C-Dory’s have. Much to difficult for me. We have a Garelick UNDER PLATFORM DOUBLE TUBE TELESCOPING DIVE LADDER part number 18636. It’s heavy duty Stainless and makes it easy to get back on the boat even with dive gear. Of course you must have a swim step to attach it to. The only thing I did not like about it was the price. List is over $800 but Wholesale Marine has them for $546.00 but I managed to find a used one on EBay for about $300.

Hope your having a great trip otherwise. We are still traveling west on the Erie and should get to the Niagara River tomorrow.

Tom and Joyce

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all of the good wishes--I am getting around better this PM. Marie is voluntarily swimming right now. We did about 25 miles--mostly at 6 to 7 MPH today. Some interesting country--from Olin Chemicals, to clear cold water at the navigable. head of the Hiwassee River. We are headed up stream and anchored in Richland Creek.

We do have an after market ladder--and it makes a big difference. It is only 3 rungs, but all are under water. We have two hand holds--one on the side of the splash well, and a 24" high piece of 1" SS pipe with a crutch tip on the inboard side of where the generator is mounted. This pipe is attached too the generator support bar.

We do have person overboard life ring and a throw bag, or could be trailed like a life sling. I would rather use the ladder than the davit--We do know that Marie does have enough strength to lift me with the 6:1 block and tackle. The davit is rigged So a person would could be deposited in the cockpit--but being on the "dock side" it was not available..! What we did not have, and will make, is a lifting sling for a person. We always had bosun's chairs on the sailboats..but nothing like that on the power boat.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thataway wrote:
Thanks for all of the good wishes--I am getting around better this PM.


Glad all is well. Close calls with a good outcome are a great / tough reminder to be careful. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. Thanks for posting and glad about the positive outcome
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still gimping around, and will pick up crutches for any long walks in Ft. Loudon tomorrow.

But we all had another scare today. Lew, who had asked about the ladder, decided to take a swim. He could not get back out of the boat. Doris called Marie on the phone, and there was some mis-communciations. We thought he wanted us to check out a ramp where he could swim. Not the case, he was in trouble. Doris called back and asked for "help" now. Dan from Lake Effect, and Mike and Kristi on Little Joe responded along with our dinghy. We got Lew into the dinghy and eventually back into his boat--Marie and Dan did the heavy lifting. Another cautionary tale. Don't jump in the water unless you know exactly how you are going to get back out, and have tried it before.

I went in the water, but very slowly. I didn't let go of the ladder, but did a full dunk. The water was 82 degrees. I used to be a great swimmer--did some 5 mile ocean swims. Had WSI, Senior Life Saving, life guard cert etc.... But at 83, age takes it toll, and I doubt that I could swim 100 yards, even though I get in our pool about once a week and swim a couple of laps....
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very scary. things can happen fast. Glad you are OK Bob. You and Marie didn't panic. That surely helped.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr. Bob, glad you are O.K. Nobody plans on having an accident, but they do happen and we learn from it. Take care as you continue to recover from your event on Sept. 10th. Gary and Colleen.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thataway - glad you are recovering.

Some years ago I was asking if c-bratters (or others) would like to meet some warm day in Seattle's Lake Union and practice overboard recoveries. I suspect it would be a good idea.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RobLL wrote:
Thataway - glad you are recovering.

Some years ago I was asking if c-bratters (or others) would like to meet some warm day in Seattle's Lake Union and practice overboard recoveries. I suspect it would be a good idea.


Short of going overboard into the PNW (or any) waters, at least it is worthwhile to think out a plan and go over it many times, checking for that one little thing that might be a catch.

IE: My plan is to use the outboard tilt function to "dump" me into the splashwell. Then one day I realized that when I am at anchor, I was shutting off the main electric switch (1-2-Both-Off). Whoops! Can't get to that switch from in the water. Now, it stays on if I am on the boat. I did some changes to what was on if that switch was on and now I have NO devices that have any battery drain even if the switch was on. Only take off the inflatable PFD to sleep.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My plan is to use the outboard tilt function to "dump" me into the splashwell


I believe that was Lew's plan too. Not sure what happened but doesn't sound like that idea panned out...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hardee wrote:
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IE: My plan is to use the outboard tilt function to "dump" me into the splashwell. Then one day I realized that when I am at anchor, I was shutting off the main electric switch (1-2-Both-Off). Whoops! Can't get to that switch from in the water. Now, it stays on if I am on the boat. I did some changes to what was on if that switch was on and now I have NO devices that have any battery drain even if the switch was on. Only take off the inflatable PFD to sleep.
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Or you could just wire it up so the tilt power is before the battery switch (fused or CB of course).
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

colbysmith wrote:
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My plan is to use the outboard tilt function to "dump" me into the splashwell


I believe that was Lew's plan too. Not sure what happened but doesn't sound like that idea panned out...


Colby, I would be interested in more info on that. Did He try to use it? Did it not work? Why? What happened?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Falls for old fogies are accidents. Just like accidents are a major cause of
death in youngsters. In that respect some say we're regressing to childhood.
In many ways, they're right.

But, falls for seniors are serious. Senior seniors might best worry about falls
more than cancer at their advanced age.

And, falls can be serious for anyone. Not just the weakened and aged elderly.
Younger, stronger, healthier and athletic people succumb also.

I date myself (one of the few who dare) mentioning Norm Cash of Detroit Tiger
fame who I knew after his retirement in a marina in Charlevoix. Yes it was on
a dock attempting to board his boat. Yes it was slippery, rainy and nasty. Yes
his BAC was almost 0.2. He was a friendly tank of a guy and died at 51* with
minor conspiracy largely poo-pooed.

Be safe out there. The jungle can take you in many ways.

Aye.

*https://www.vintagedetroit.com/blog/2018/02/10/norm-cash-murdered/

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our local Y, and this may be nationwide, is sponsoring a free fall evaluation and prevention day. If there is enough response they will offer a continuing class. Fall prevention is largely about strength, balance, and flexibility. I doubt that this would have stopped what happened to thataway, docks and boats are their own 'critter'.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harvey, I wasn't there, so not sure what happened. But posted earlier in this thread:
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But we all had another scare today. Lew, who had asked about the ladder, decided to take a swim. He could not get back out of the boat. Doris called Marie on the phone, and there was some mis-communciations. We thought he wanted us to check out a ramp where he could swim. Not the case, he was in trouble. Doris called back and asked for "help" now. Dan from Lake Effect, and Mike and Kristi on Little Joe responded along with our dinghy. We got Lew into the dinghy and eventually back into his boat--Marie and Dan did the heavy lifting. Another cautionary tale. Don't jump in the water unless you know exactly how you are going to get back out, and have tried it before.
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