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Discovery
Joined: 08 Dec 2003 Posts: 1239 City/Region: LOA, UTAH
State or Province: UT
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Discovery
Photos: Discovery
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Fishcatcher907
Joined: 05 Apr 2019 Posts: 71 City/Region: Soldotna
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Legacy
Photos: Legacy
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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This sounds tragic. Prayers to all involved. _________________ Cheers |
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thechadmiller
Joined: 20 Jan 2018 Posts: 85 City/Region: Portland
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2017
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Agostino
Photos: Agostino
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Ugh. I dove off this boat 3 years ago. Super nice crew. All the local Portland dive shops charter with them. So tragic. |
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BrentB
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 4419 City/Region: Greenwood
State or Province: IN
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Prayers! _________________ Brent Barrett |
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cmetzenberg
Joined: 04 Jan 2014 Posts: 367 City/Region: Santa Barbara
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Kanaloa
Photos: Kanaloa
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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They passed us Saturday afternoon at Santa Cruz. Last time i'll ever see that boat. _________________ Conrad Metzenberg
07' Tomcat 255 "Kanaloa"
87' Boston Whaler Guardian 17 (BlackFlag, 03-14)
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pluscount
Joined: 04 May 2018 Posts: 29 City/Region: Rathdrum (CDA)
State or Province: ID
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Draken
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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I've been certified for 50 years. in my younger days i dove off the Channel Islands lots.
When I first looked at he headline I thought "how can a boat full of swimmers lose that many so close to shore?"
Then it seems a fire may have trapped them below decks in their bunks. Tragic.
When I also heard the crew was safe I immediately thought of cowardice. However, if a below deck fire was the main cause, it makes sense the crew survived because they always sleep above deck. Tragic. |
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smckean (Tosca)
Joined: 18 Jan 2014 Posts: 975 City/Region: Guemes Island (Anacortes)
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Tosca
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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I am always puzzled as to why prayers are thought to be effective after a tragedy like this. Wouldn't it have been more compassionate of God to prevent the accident in the first place rather than for him/her to get involved afterwards just to help clean up the mess?? |
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BrentB
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 4419 City/Region: Greenwood
State or Province: IN
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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We are commanded
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 English Standard Version (ESV)
16 Rejoice always, 17 pray without ceasing, 18 give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.
God created us because He loves us. God never intended for tragedy and prejudice, wars and hatred, lust and greed, jealousy and pride. God meant for Earth to be a paradise, a place where there would be no death.
But a man and a woman, Adam and Eve, rebelled against God. This act of rebellion said, “I don’t need you, God. I can build my world without you.” As a result, mankind must suffer and die. Physical death is just the death of the body, but the spirit lives on. If your spirit is separated from God for eternity, it will be lost forever.
God has provided a rescue in the person of His Son, Jesus Christ.
Gen 3; 2 Corinthians 1:3-4; Psalms 46:1-2 |
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pcg
Joined: 31 Aug 2018 Posts: 408 City/Region: Sherwood
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 1999
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Quest
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Let's not turn this tragedy into a religious discussion please. There are other websites for that. _________________ Paul |
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localboy
Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 4656 City/Region: Lake Stevens via Honolulu
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: 'Au Kai (Ocean Traveler)
Photos: 'AU KAI
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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smckean (Tosca) wrote: | I am always puzzled as to why prayers are thought to be effective after a tragedy like this. Wouldn't it have been more compassionate of God to prevent the accident in the first place rather than for him/her to get involved afterwards just to help clean up the mess?? |
Good, GOD! Seriously? _________________ "We can go over there...behind the 'little one'....."
Wife to her husband pointing @ us...from the bow of their 50-footer; Prideaux Haven 2013 |
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SEA3PO
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 1835 City/Region: Chester
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SEA3PO
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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I am totally surprised that there was not an escape hatch or fire alarm...That boat had to be Coast Guard Inspected...
Joel
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Pacificcoast101
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 717 City/Region: Torrance
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: No Pressure
Photos: No Pressure
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20814 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Crew except one slept in wheelhouse. One crew was sleeping in bunk room. Understand that stairs were just forward of galley & hatch just aft of galley. My guess is a propane explosion/fire in the galley. Very grim situation. Not a thing the crew could do.
The investigation will be very though. Maybe some standards changed. Marie is using & I were discussing escape plans we had on our larger boats. R Vs are mandated to have at least 2 escape hatches / exits.
Explosion /fire has to be one of the worse scenarios on any boat. This why we question propane aboard, except in a well ventilated area.
I believe prayers are directed to survivors & families. The crew members will remember this and perhaps second guess any actions. I suspect there was absolutely nothing they could have done to save lives. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
KA6PKB
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Pacificcoast101
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 717 City/Region: Torrance
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: No Pressure
Photos: No Pressure
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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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They had an electric stove on the Conception. Speculation seems to be narrowed on lithium batteries being charged in the salon overnight, but only the NTSB will know for sure. |
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Micahbigsur@msn.com
Joined: 27 May 2019 Posts: 484 City/Region: Big Sur
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sierra
Photos: Sierra
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:28 am Post subject: |
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The lithium battery speculation is scary, it is possible for them to discharge a large part of their energy almost instantaneously when shorted. We have seen how a laptop battery can start a fire imagine what a large boat battery bank could do or even some of the small auxiliary battery "generators" that are being marketed could do if the strict charging protocol goes haywire. Some newer, safer, high energy density batteries are coming on line.
No matter the cause I am so sad for the families of those who were lost, a couple were young students from a school near here, all a tragedy. Hopefully this will change commercial standards and regulations so future lives may be saved. _________________ Micah Curtis and Dana, RN
2003 C-dory 25 Sierra, 200, 9.9 and 2.5 Suzukis
2012 R25 SC Sequoia (2015-2018)
1978 Folkes 38 SV Audacious (2006-2015)
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