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South of Heaven



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pcg wrote:
Let's not turn this tragedy into a religious discussion please. There are other websites for that.


True but thats your opinion though. Brent had a right to post that. We are inclusive here. That's what makes the Brats awesome.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a good example of how fast a fire can spread when charging a lithium battery.
https://youtu.be/0nrsoMsEMNU?t=1110

I'd forgotten about the fact that there were electric vents in each bunk space. With the privacy curtains closed, each passenger would have likely been unconscious before any smoke alarm went off.

Even when passengers are alerted and on deck, it is still amazing how fast fire can consume a boat.
https://youtu.be/Prd7zlQClBE

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Marco Flamingo



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

South of Heaven wrote:
pcg wrote:
Let's not turn this tragedy into a religious discussion please. There are other websites for that.


True but thats your opinion though. Brent had a right to post that. We are inclusive here. That's what makes the Brats awesome.


Amen. I also sometimes post worthless gibberish.

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smckean (Tosca)



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

May Allah heap his blessings upon these victims. They are with Mohammad -- peace be upon him.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You two are hilarious...

Your disrespect for others here is disgusting. Where is the middle finger emoji?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LocalBoy, its all good. Just offer those guys a cold beer and a smile at the next Brat gathering.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:30 am    Post subject: dive boat fire Reply with quote

There is power in prayer. Tosca, sorry buddy, You have obviously been let down.
I pray for the survivors.

Richard
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smckean (Tosca)



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rbfconstruction wrote:
There is power in prayer.

OK. So which God to I pray to:

- Allah?
- Jehovah?
- Yahweh?
- Vishnu?
- Zeus?
- Artemis?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many names in the Old and New Testament

God the Father
God Most High (Gen. 14:1Cool
Our Shield (Ps. 59:11)
My Father's God (Ex. 18:4)
Sovereign Lord (2 Sam. 7:1Cool
Holy One (Ps. 71:22)
God of Heaven (Neh. 1:5)
Great and Awesome God (Neh. 1:5)
My Strength (Ps. 59:9)
My Loving God (Ps. 59:9)
God Who Avenges (Ps. 94:1)
Judge of the Earth (Ps. 94:2)
Abba, Father (Mark 14:36)
Only True God (John 173)
God of Peace (IThes. 5:23)
God the Blessed and Only Ruler (1 Tim. 6:15)
God of all Grace (1 Pet. 5:10)

The Bible says that the one true God is the sovereign, self-existent Creator of the universe (Isaiah 42:5; Ephesians 1:11). He is spirit (John 4:24), He is eternal (Psalm 90:2), and He is personal (Deuteronomy 34:10). The one true God possesses all knowledge (Isaiah 46:10) and all power (Matthew 19:26), is present in all places (Psalm 139:7–10), and is unchanging (James 1:17).

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even though I am named after an Old Testament Profit and I have strong feelings on this subject I would never expound on it here, I get enough divisive blather on facebook. I check in here literaly to escape this stuff, I have the full spectrum of cruising friends in Mexico and we all adhere to the old cruising mantra of never discussing, Anchors, Religion or Politics and it makes for a great feeling of community.
I love it here , I hope it is not changing, if it does , "hasta la vista baby"!
Thanks, Micah

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said, Micah, thank you!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Three things:

ONE: there is a good chance that those in the bunks were asleep, and inhaled toxic fumes (gasses) resulting from the fire and carried through the vents. They probably never woke up, but died peacefully in their sleep.

TWO: If, in this world, we respected each other in their individuality, like we would want to be respected, we would have a much more peaceful world and this would be a safer, happier world.

THREE: What you believe, is up to you, and what you want to share of your belief, is also up to you. And how I respond to your belief is up to me. You have your right, and I respect that right, and I would appreciate if you respect my rights too.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hardee wrote:
Three things:

ONE: there is a good chance that those in the bunks were asleep, and inhaled toxic fumes (gasses) resulting from the fire and carried through the vents. They probably never woke up, but died peacefully in their sleep.
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Perhaps, but they could have also died choking on noxious fumes. People who have survived transport category aircraft fires comment on how bad the fumes and smoke are to breath.

A fire that produces lots of CO or just consumes all the O2 might be an alright way to go. A fire that burns plastics, paints, and petrochemicals (e.g. oil, diesel fuel, foam mattresses) probably not.

There is also the reasonable possibility that some/all of them may have burned to death.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The county sheriff, who is also the coroner said they all died of smoke inhalation. None of them burned to death.
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