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DaveMorehouse



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:51 pm    Post subject: Engine Mount Electric Trolling Motor Reply with quote

Hi all.

Have any of our C-22 Dory folks used the electric motors that mount on the cavitation plate of your outboard? I would like to use one for trolling but am not certain if 160# of thrust is adequate to troll the great lakes. I have a kicker (9.9 Honda) but it isn't connected to the Yammy 90 for steering. The Yamaha makes a poor rudder in anything other than calm conditions.

Any thoughts or experiences would be welcomed.

Thanks in advance,
Dave

Here is the link for what I am thinking - https://mk.factoryoutletstore.com/details/33562/minn-kota-rt160-em.html?category_id=20867&catalogitemid=35281
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:17 pm    Post subject: Electric trolling motor mounted on main motor Reply with quote

I assume you mean mountaing above the anti-ventiliation plate. My 80-lb pushes my 22 at about 2.5 knots, about the same as the main idling. That means no overlap with main, but I can slow trolling with the electric to almost nothing. I did find that I couldn't steer very well with any wind or tide since less than 1 knot doesn't give good steerage on this flat-bottomed boat. That is why I finally mounted an 80-lb thrust trolling motor on the bow. This will keep me pointed at nearly any speed, and makes for great docking, forward, sideways, backwards, whatever. Together (160 lb thrust) I get about 3.5 knots...so a 160 on your boat might give something similar. You can see pictures in my photos section. Good day, Rob Harrison
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DaveMorehouse



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much, Rob. I will visit your gallery.

Thanks again,
Dave
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had an 80 lb MinnKota Engine Mount Trolling motor on my CD-22 Cruiser and had the same results as Rob above and loved it.

Great for slow trolling for trout, etc.

I added two more Grp 27 batteries for a total of 4. We could use a Honda 1000i generator or the Yamaha 90 main when necessary to recharge the batteries.

Your 180 lb trolling motor will pull down quite a few amps, so figure out how to recharge your batteries underway while trolling, if doing so for more than 2-3 hours, depending on your battery bank size.

You'll also have to arrange to supply 24 volts to that trolling motor.

I'm guessing the 180 lb thrust will be enough for your boat in any conditions worth trolling in, but YMMV! Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your insight, Joe.

I went to your photo gallery and that was also very helpful.

Cheers,
Dave
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Yandina troll bridge can charge a 24 volt bank from a 12 volt source.

I have never used these trolling motors--and wonder if they would ventilate/caviitate. The shallow dead rise of the C Dory, means that many of our motors are not mounted as deep under water as the deeper V hulls.

Also I suspect that they could not be used with a Permatrm?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave-

Here's the article I wrote about the installation:

Engine Mounted Electric Trolling Motor

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfect, Joe. Thanks much.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ez-steer with a digital throttle controller for your 9.9. Never look back..

Cost you about $150 to piece together an ez steer and I wanna say my trollmaster was around $300. absolutley the best $300 I've ever spent to help me catch fish
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Jake.

I think you are right on the money with this suggestion. I have read/watched everything I could on it. Easy and inexpensive.

Cheers
Dave
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used the exact type of motor you are thinking about for years when I lived in CA. We would not use the electric for long term trolling, but to maneuver while docking, un-docking, and to slow us down while landing fish. Kokanee were the main game back then, and the electric was fantastic for fighting these soft lipped fish helping us to put more fish in the boat.

The cavitation plate on a a BF90 mounted to a CD22 sits deep enough that you will have no problem covering up the prop(s) on your electric. Then when you get up on plane, the whole thing will be out of the water.

Being a gr8 lakes troller myself (mainly the West side of L. Mich), I can't see how this would benefit you with all the wind and waves we are constantly dealing with. Not sure if your electric will have enough thrust to fight all the drift and waves. Also, their are many days when we catch a BUNCH of Coho right in the prop wash, and I'm sure those goofy fish are attracted to the noise and turbulence of the big BF90 on my CD22.

I still have my electric. I haven't mounted it for the simple reason of having to fight the winds and waves. Good luck with your decision.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW, Dave:

Do you ever fish the Apostles? I've been craving a trip up their for years but can never find anyone to go with me.

I 've studied the benthic charts and fishing areas and I'm craving an opportunity to drop some lines in those steep canyons.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey dgeorges,

I haven't fished the Apostles since the '70s when I was going to college in Ashland. I live in the Keweenaw Peninsula. We have good fishing here and I find it hard to leave fish to go find them somewhere else. Smile

If you get north, send me a note. We can get out on your boat or mine.

Currently, I am busy trying to set up my Dory. At the same time I am trying to sell my larger Rosborough trawler. I force myself to go out and fish but, as you know, there are a zillion little things to setting up a boat they way you want it. that said, it's a wonderful problem to have.

Cheers,
Dave
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You live in a fishing haven. BRAVO. I've read many great stories about your neck of the woods.

Definitely will look you up for a visit sometime. I'm fascinated by Superior. Good luck with all your adventures.

D
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And best wishes for yours, dgeorges.

Cheers,
Dave
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