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FIMAN1
Joined: 17 Jun 2019 Posts: 32 City/Region: Wilmington
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:18 pm Post subject: 2001 honda 40 hp |
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Question to all you experienced boaters. Would you be afraid of a 18 year old outboard engine and how does the C dory handle with 2 40hp engines? |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12632 City/Region: Sequim
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C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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That is a lot of question.
The answer would depend on a lot of variables.
How many hours on the OB?
What kind of maintenance has been done?
How has it been kept up?
(The last 2 are the most important.)
What boat are you putting the OB on? (Twins?)
I run twin 40 Yamaha's. (1600 hours an 14 years, always maintained, always treated right.) The boat handles fine. And for slow speed maneuvering, like in and around the marina it handles easier and better than a single -- ahh I know that is going to get some flack, but it does.
If I could have the same weight with twin 50's I would go there. My preference is for Yamis because I boat extensively in Canada, and I could get service and parts there. (Honda not so much - and there is plenty info on that here on C-BRATS site.)
If you have (or are) a good mechanic, and the engine checks out OK, I would not be afraid of it unless the hours are over 3 grand. The water taxi guys I have talked with will run their taxi OB's out to 3 or even 4K hours, then take that engine and put it on their fishing boat and put a new one on the work boat. (Most of those are in Canada and are Yamaha).
Harvey
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PaulNBriannaLynn
Joined: 26 Oct 2012 Posts: 757 City/Region: Fort White
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C-Dory Year: 2007
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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I second what Harvey said. I wouldn't be afraid of 2001 bf40s at all, in fact that's a great setup. We ran that setup for years and was very satisfied. The only issues we ever had were from ethanol fuel plugging up the small carb jets. Also the water pumps would sometimes suck up a chunk of something in the water and block the 'pee" hole. We would bring a piece of string trimmer line with us to clear it out to prevent overheating and continue on our way. Put countess hours on those motors and they were great.
The only thing to consider is newer motors will have fuel injection, which is nice. A lot depends on how they were maintained and used, but this model was built pretty robust.
I can also comment about parts availability because I was a little shocked when we crossed over into Canada and needed a fuel line, it was very difficult to find. We carried spares with us after that for that reason. _________________ 2007 22 cruiser sold 10/2021
2009 Parker 23 sold 10/2017
2003 22 cruiser sold 3/2016 |
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Hunkydory
Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2657 City/Region: Cokeville, Wyoming
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C-Dory Year: 2000
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Good info Harvey & Paul.
Fiman, I have twin Honda 1999 40’s on a CD22 with just under 2400 hours on them. They are well maintained with me having done most all the maintenance. This is my 17th boating season running them & they start & run just as strong now as ever. Most of the time their power output is more than adequate. I’m presently considering replacing them, but only because of my preference for boating in the more remote SE Alaska areas & even with good maintenance, more hours & years of use does increase the odds of having near future problems. If Most of my boating was done where the other motor could easily get me back to the launch, I would keep these motors until one had a major failure & that could be a long time in the future as the motors have been trouble free for the last several years performing flawlessly last year in SE Alaska, Yellowstone Lake & Lake Powell & so far this year. How much the increase in cost will be for higher hp twin motor replacement will determine whether I stick to the 80 hp Honda or Tohatsu or go higher with either Tohatsu, Suzuki, Yamaha or Honda or even just stay with older Honda’s awhile longer. The slightly more heavy alternatives are under consideration now too, but I will stick to twins. The new motors with much more hp for very little weight increase is making the higher cost a difficult decision.
The older honda motors were well built motors, so if they are well maintained & the price is right it wouldn’t have stopped me from purchase unless another boat in the same or better condition with newer motors was available at a price I could afford.
Jay _________________ Jay and Jolee 2000 22 CD cruiser Hunkydory
I will not waste my days in trying to prolong them------Jack London
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C-Green
Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 310 City/Region: Houghton
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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I'm with Harvey. I have a 2002 CD22 with twin Honda 40's, put about 80 hours/yr on the boat since new and have only had to do normal maintenance on the engines - oil and lube (annual), filters (every two years), and water pumps (only on 3rd or 4th pumps in 18 seasons) - never any issues except recently an overheat alarm sounds but there is definitely no overheating, must be a bad sensor. I'm very happy with my setup. I mostly cruise at 13-16 mph (2 engines) or fish at 2.5 mph (one engine).
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WeekiTiki
Joined: 12 Jun 2019 Posts: 412 City/Region: Weeki Wachee
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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My question in regards to small twins
Is how do they track?
Seeing that they're both right hand screw |
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WeekiTiki
Joined: 12 Jun 2019 Posts: 412 City/Region: Weeki Wachee
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Reminds me of Perry Mason's old cruiser with twin 35s |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12632 City/Region: Sequim
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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WeekiTiki wrote: | My question in regards to small twins
Is how do they track?
Seeing that they're both right hand screw |
If you are asking about forward direction. they go where you point the boat.
If asking about reverse. No prop walk noted. With twins maneuverability is easy, forward or back.
Harvey
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WeekiTiki
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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hardee wrote: | WeekiTiki wrote: | My question in regards to small twins
Is how do they track?
Seeing that they're both right hand screw |
If you are asking about forward direction. they go where you point the boat.
If asking about reverse. No prop walk noted. With twins maneuverability is easy, forward or back.
Harvey
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Really, reversing I figured they'd pull you starboard, big time |
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bridma
Joined: 13 Sep 2011 Posts: 1155 City/Region: Comox
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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I had twin 40 Yamis. Both right hand screw. I did not notice any prop walk in reverse.
Martin. |
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hardee
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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Martin,
Maybe it's a "Yami" thing.
Even if it wasn't, it would be easy to overcome with twins -- differential throttle.
Harvey
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bridma
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Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:54 am Post subject: |
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Hi Harvey,
There are so many more positives with twins. The "single" guys don't know what they are missing.
Martin. |
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hardee
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Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:13 am Post subject: |
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Harvey
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WeekiTiki
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Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:42 am Post subject: |
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bridma wrote: | Hi Harvey,
There are so many more positives with twins. The "single" guys don't know what they are missing.
Martin. |
How about fuel economy?
...and do the twins have hydraulic steering? |
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FIMAN1
Joined: 17 Jun 2019 Posts: 32 City/Region: Wilmington
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Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:32 pm Post subject: 2001 honda 40 hp |
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OK just found out the engines have 1800 hrs on them. I would have to think its time to re power? |
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