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FIMAN1



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:31 am    Post subject: A/C HOW IMPORTANT Reply with quote

How important is A/C? I'm looking into buying an 22' cruiser and was wondering. Also I have seen them with a bathroom and a front facing seat or two seat with a table and porta potty. Just looking for some advice. Thanks
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WeekiTiki



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds as though we looked at the same boats Very Happy

Thinking wife might want to get on top to sunbathe

So, AC's out

And I don't like the idea of the extra weight up there all the time

Depends on if you're planning on docking where there's electric I suppose,
although a little Honda 2000 would run it

And the head that takes the place of the rear dinette seat...

Nope, maybe if it included a shower

Anyone here ever install a shower on their back deck?

Are these boats self bailing? I doubt it, not with the flat design

One more thing I've got to do, build a sump for the rear pump
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:38 am    Post subject: AC Reply with quote

We finally broke down and put on a Coleman 9200 AC unit on top of my roof on my cc23 Venture .I should have done this 10 years ago what a beautiful and cool thing to have .Also did not really cut down on economy or top speed maybe 1 mph if that . With the curtains up it is comfortable in90 degree days .It takes the Humidity out and that is what you need .We did not need to reinforce the roof it is almost 7/8 in balsa cored very solid install .Jim
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in coastal N.C. I had rather have A/C than a head, shower, and stove. Seriously, I would trade all three for just A/C.
I don't own a C-Dory yet, and may end up building a Great Alaskan Skiff as my next boat, but whichever one I end up with will have a rooftop-mounted A/C powered by a Honda eu2000i generator.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: AC Reply with quote

jennykatz wrote:
We finally broke down and put on a Coleman 9200 AC unit on top of my roof on my cc23 Venture .I should have done this 10 years ago what a beautiful and cool thing to have .Also did not really cut down on economy or top speed maybe 1 mph if that . With the curtains up it is comfortable in90 degree days .It takes the Humidity out and that is what you need .We did not need to reinforce the roof it is almost 7/8 in balsa cored very solid install .Jim


Jim, how loud is that Coleman unit? Is it tolerable while sitting in there or underway?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more consideration: go for the CD-25... you can have an enclosed head w/shower (hot and cold pressure water), A wash-down station in the cockpit, full 30 amp electrical system, fridge, larger dinette (with convertible front facing seat), more elbow room and storage, a larger v-berth, bigger cockpit, better ride in chop. Add an A/C on top (some have already done that), and you are good to go.

Yes, you will need a heavier tow vehicle. Instead of trying to squeeze all you want into a smaller boat... well, you know.

Good luck with the search.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

James comment makes good sense. You get more room, more of what you want in more usable space and the boat is designed for that use. Add the A-C there.

AND there is a great 25 just came up for sale here:

http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=27545

The cross country transport can be a great road trip and will be cheaper than doing all that modification to a 22.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A/C would help sleeping in the summer months down here. I don't need it during the day, with the windows and front hatch open, I get a good breeze so its cooler than being out in the sun like open boats are.

We camped on it last weekend for the last time this season, and wont attempt again until probably sometime in October. Without A/C you'd have to be very hardy to be able to sleep well in this humidity and heat we have in the summer. Now we'll use it as a day boat until summers over.

Would I like A/C? Sure, but I'd rather have my paddleboards strapped to the roof and I can't do both.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:24 pm    Post subject: AC Reply with quote

AC. Yes you can hear it but it is quieter then our RV Dometic 1100 AC On low speed it’s not bad at all Maybe my hearing is going ha ha You can still carry a conversation without yelling at each other Jim
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We spend about 5 months a year on our CD25. We have a 5000 btu window ac that we stick in the front window when we need it for sleeping. Rooftop ones are great but I need the roof for the tender. There is a nice 25 at Wefings near East Point Florida with a Marine AC unit for sale.

We had a CD22 for some years and loved it After having a 25 with more room we wouldn’t go back unless we went back to weekend boating.

Everyone has different needs.....and my wife says this is what she needs. I’d be a fool to argue.

Tom

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have used the $129 Arctic King AC unit on two 22's and two 25's. The Tom Cat had a 9200 BTU RV roof air. There are a number of choices. A few put in sea water cooled marine AC units. These take up a lot of room, and cannot be run when the boat is used as a camper on the road (as we use ours). The 5000 BTU unit can be run with a Honda EU 1000. The most recent boat (25) has some modification to the AC unit--handles on the sides, a carrying bag, and wooden runners on the bottom to hold it in place.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now a portable AC

I could see that

In fact if my wife ever decides she wants to camp

We'll have to get one
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thataway wrote:
We have used the $129 Arctic King AC unit on two 22's and two 25's. The Tom Cat had a 9200 BTU RV roof air. There are a number of choices. A few put in sea water cooled marine AC units. These take up a lot of room, and cannot be run when the boat is used as a camper on the road (as we use ours). The 5000 BTU unit can be run with a Honda EU 1000. The most recent boat (25) has some modification to the AC unit--handles on the sides, a carrying bag, and wooden runners on the bottom to hold it in place.

Where do you mount it, Bob?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Where do you mount it, Bob?


I am sorry--which air conditioner are your referring to? The 9200 BTU was about in the top of the center of the roof of the 25.

The window units were in the front center opening window.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Where do you mount it, Bob?


I am sorry--which air conditioner are your referring to? The 9200 BTU was about in the top of the center of the roof of the 25.

The window units were in the front center opening window.

Yes, I was referring to the window unit. Thanks.
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