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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:31 am    Post subject: Seapiper 35 Reply with quote

http://www.seapiper.com/
Little too commercial-looking for my tastes and it’s obviously not a simple, trailerable boat...but it is different.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is an interesting design. There are some tweaks I would like to see (bigger windows, less fancy wood inside, deeper helm station), but for the price it seems like a pretty decent boat.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe this boat was discussed on the forum in the past. The down sides are the open cockpit forward--and spray. Although the beam is 8'6', (which allows trailering with out a permit--the LOA / on trailer, and weight (17,000 Lbs) are going to make it a real chore to trailer. Also the narrow beam and lines will make the boat tend to roll. The "seaKeeper" Gyro stabilizer for only ($24,000) is a pretty pricey accessory--uses a lot of power, and takes up a lot of room....

O once had a sailboat about that size with an amidships cockpit, and it was a problem.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know about 5% of what Doctor Bob knows. The first thing I thought was, yup this sucker is going to roll around with its length and narrow beam. Enjoyed looking at the pictures though.

Martin.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trying to maximize fuel economy tends toward a roll-y boat. I saw the small Seakeeper demo at a boat show, pretty impressive technology, and for some, now affordable. I would have to have a roof between pilothouse and forward cabin, where the only head is located.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kind of depends on where you are going to do most of your boating. FWIW, the 2nd boat has a fixed bimini covering the center cockpit and a fixed cantilevered one over the back cockpit.

http://www.seapiper.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/IMG_20190125_121416-1080p-1024x768.jpg

http://www.seapiper.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/IMG_20190123_110512-1080p-1024x576.jpg

http://www.seapiper.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/IMG_20190123_110406-1-1080p-1-1024x576.jpg

You can get a new 35' cruiser for well under $200K with the Seapiper. A Ranger 31S lists at $320K. A new Nordic 34 is $350K+
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I see that they addressed that issue! It was a common comment on forums discussing that design.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bimini does not get rid of the issue of spray, and serious water getting into the forward cockpit. Also they tout 2 doors, for easy entrance into the water--a weak point in the design if running offshore in heavy seas.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO the bimini framework does nothing for the clean lines of the boat. Also no mention of a dinghy or davits. I guess you are on your own for that one. I would rather pay the extra money and go for a proven line of mini trawlers. This could be one of those lemons that cease production after a short run.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aesthetics are certainly a matter of personal opinion, and perhaps it's shallow to place them super high on the priority list.

If so, I guess I'm guilty as charged...as I'd never own a boat I didn't find pleasing to the eye, regardless of performance or function. I wasn't a huge fan seeing the renderings, but the middle pic posted by ssobol entrenched my opinion. Looks too much like a floating box to me.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought they kind of emulate the commercial crab boats one sees on Deadliest Catch... Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bridma wrote:
IMO the bimini framework does nothing for the clean lines of the boat. Also no mention of a dinghy or davits. I guess you are on your own for that one. I would rather pay the extra money and go for a proven line of mini trawlers. This could be one of those lemons that cease production after a short run.
Martin.


Seems to be doing better than the TT35 line. Cheaper too.

Personally, I think it is an interesting design change. If I was in the market for a larger slipped boat, I'd be looking at it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that away wrote:
SNIP The down sides are the open cockpit forward--and spray. ...SNIP... had a sailboat about that size with an amidships cockpit, and it was a problem.


I had a 2000 Chris White Design Atlantic 42 catamaran with amidships cockpit
which opened forward and was a joy for access to/from the forward steering
station and pilothouse. And, no, it was not difficult to remember to close
(and bolt) the hefty cockpit door when needed.

Others liked it too. The design won Boat of the Year in the late 90's...

Aye.

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