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homerjack
Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 186 City/Region: Homer
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1988
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: 49er
Photos: 49er
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Same problem. Sometimes made worse if pump rate is set too high. I have stack of absorption pads on board and use one to smother fill opening. Note: If you fill too slow at the end, it may not be enough flow to trigger nozzle shut off and end up flowing out of vent port. Don't ask me how I know. |
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C-Green
Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 312 City/Region: Houghton
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2002
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Green
Photos: C-Green
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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I find I can fill faster when I don't bury the nozzle as far as possible - I'd say I only bury about half the nozzle. I think a full bury puts the discharge of the nozzle against the first bend and hence it shoots back up at you.
Jay |
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Nancy and Bud
Joined: 02 Aug 2019 Posts: 310 City/Region: Nashville
State or Province: IL
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Emma Mae
Photos: Emma Mae
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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What a PIA.
Tried to fill both thanks this afternoon. With less than one gallon in each tank it spewed gas both in the cockpit and over the sides.
Is this the best C-Dory can do??????
From the posts above it looks like a shorter fill hose works as well as cross venting between tanks.
Anyone with newer 22's experiencing the same problem??? _________________ "C-dory's are the 13th step in a 12 step program for sailors."Marc Grove, Wefings Marine |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12633 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
Photos: SleepyC
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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Whether it over fills or not depends on mostly 2 things. First, How fast you fill. And some places (Roche Harbor in my favorite) has a valve where you can adjust the fill speed right on the fill handle. So. slow is the word. Second, Listen to the fill sound, (and with the super cool, C-Dory Gas gauges -- read see through tanks, Keep an eye on the fill level and shut it off before you are 1.5 inches from the top of the tank.
Harvey
SleepyC
_________________ Though in our sleep we are not conscious of our activity or surroundings, we should not, in our wakefulness, be unconscious of our sleep. |
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tsturm
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 1153 City/Region: Soldotna
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: JMR TOO
Photos: JMR-TOO
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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AKFisher wrote: | So over all, I'm am glad it is not just me experiencing this issue. I do have to fill extremely slow and I will have to look at figuring a way to get the hose as straight as possible and maybe some type of fix to stop the burping back. Thanks for the insights and recommendations. |
And its not just C-dory, most boats are a pos to fill. When I replaced the tanks on my 22 I made the fill hose about 6" shorter on both sides making a pretty much straight shot into tanks. That helped a bunch. Also removed the kink the factory had in the vents. |
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Nancy and Bud
Joined: 02 Aug 2019 Posts: 310 City/Region: Nashville
State or Province: IL
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Emma Mae
Photos: Emma Mae
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Well, it's been a heck of a day. Got all of the fuel fill lines and vent lines out of the boat.
Check out this pic. Big dent that had to affect filling.
Off to get new hoses and T's to replace the old ones and combine the vents.
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tsturm
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 1153 City/Region: Soldotna
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: JMR TOO
Photos: JMR-TOO
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Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Nancy and Bud wrote: | Well, it's been a heck of a day. Got all of the fuel fill lines and vent lines out of the boat.
Check out this pic. Big dent that had to affect filling.
Off to get new hoses and T's to replace the old ones and combine the vents.
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AKFisher
Joined: 08 Apr 2019 Posts: 25 City/Region: Venice
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2013
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: NELLIE GRACE
Photos: AKFisher
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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:47 pm Post subject: UPDATE |
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Well I gave it a full year to try the slow fill method and turning the fill handle is certain direction to see if there was a sweet spot. So far there is really no best practice. I will be looking into new hoses and cross venting with possible check valve.
I appreciate all the advice and help from all you dedicated C-Brats. _________________ AKFisher |
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Pacificcoast101
Joined: 29 Sep 2007 Posts: 722 City/Region: Torrance
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: No Pressure
Photos: No Pressure
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Jim from New York
Joined: 03 Feb 2019 Posts: 28 City/Region: Kings Park
State or Province: NY
C-Dory Year: 2018
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: MarTika
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:20 am Post subject: |
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I also have this problem and it doesn’t look to easy to straighten out the vent lines. Has anybody tried the clean way fuel fill kit you put in the fuel fill first and it acts as a baffle it looks like a good answer for this. Any opinions?
Jim
https://cleanwayfuelfill.shop/ |
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B95054
Joined: 19 Nov 2020 Posts: 27 City/Region: Maple Ridge
State or Province: BC
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:28 am Post subject: |
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I can’t speak to C-Dory because I cannot find one to buy yet, but I did battle this problem for a couple of years on my last Bayliner. I had to trickle the fuel in or it would splash back everywhere. When I looked at the vent and screen it looked perfectly fine so I never suspected it to be the problem. Finally one day out of frustration I disconnected the vent hose from the vent and suddenly could fill at full speed. Replace the little chrome vent outlet and my problem was gone. Point being that if venting is inadequate gas will back flow and shoot right out at you. I recommend disconnecting your vent hose and then trying to fill to see if your problem goes away and if that does not work then explore ways that you may be able to increase the venting. _________________ Discovered the C Dory and think it will be my next boat. Currently looking for a good 23 foot cruiser. |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3461 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
Photos: SoBelle
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Jim from New York wrote: | I also have this problem and it doesn’t look to easy to straighten out the vent lines. Has anybody tried the clean way fuel fill kit you put in the fuel fill first and it acts as a baffle it looks like a good answer for this. Any opinions?
Jim
https://cleanwayfuelfill.shop/ |
I have one of these. It helps quite a bit, but it is not perfect. The issue is getting a tight seal between the Cleanway and the fill port. Having filler caps retained with a chain causes the chain to get in the way. Also, the C-Dory fillers have a raised edge around them (mine does anyway), that requires a little filing of the Cleanway to get a better fit. So the Cleanway does capture a lot of the fuel that spurts out of the filler, but not all of it. It is better than nothing though.
For me, I fill the tank at normal flow until it is about an inch from the top of the tank. Then I pause and let the fuel settle and the tank vent. Then top off the tank slowly. If you are in a quite place you can hear the fuel starting to come up the filler tube and stop the flow to let it settle. At noisy places this can be difficult to hear. Also, when filling on the water a sudden rock of the boat can cause the fuel to spurt unexpectedly if you are fueling at the time. |
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B95054
Joined: 19 Nov 2020 Posts: 27 City/Region: Maple Ridge
State or Province: BC
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Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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I can’t speak to C-Dory because I cannot find one to buy yet, but I did battle this problem for a couple of years on my last Bayliner. I had to trickle the fuel in or it would splash back everywhere. When I looked at the vent and screen it looked perfectly fine so I never suspected it to be the problem. Finally one day out of frustration I disconnected the vent hose from the vent and suddenly could fill at full speed. Replace the little chrome vent outlet and my problem was gone. Point being that if venting is inadequate gas will back flow and shoot right out at you. I recommend disconnecting your vent hose and then trying to fill to see if your problem goes away and if that does not work then explore ways that you may be able to increase the venting. |
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