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jennykatz
Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Posts: 1679 City/Region: naples
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Little Treasurer
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:19 pm Post subject: hydrofoils |
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does anyone remember the s/s whale tail hydrofoil that boaters world or boat us used to sell . i've read the link that the doel fin and the other plastic fins don't work that well on the c-22 . also has anyone tried to pull the 22 with a acura mdx or honda pilot ?? IM hoping to pick up my boat in a few weeks its a 1999 cruiser with a 50 needs a 90-115 .if anyone needs a 50honda let me know thanks _________________ retired 8/08 from UAL, still working pt tm
Duck c-22 cruiser sold 6/23/08
06 Venture Cruiser with merc115CT
00 cd16 cruiser honda 40 sold 3/12 |
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Jazzmanic
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 2231 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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We installed a Permatrim hydrofoil on our Suzuki 70hp and it works great. I've heard other hydrofoils would make the boat squirrely in turns but we've never experienced that with the Permatrim. It really gets the bow down and makes running through chop much smoother. I've read other Permatrim users saying the same thing. There's lot of info about hydrofoils in the Trim Tabs, Hydrofoil forum.
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jennykatz
Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Posts: 1679 City/Region: naples
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Little Treasurer
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:33 am Post subject: |
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where do you buy this permatrim hydrofoil for yamaha 90 -115 |
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Jazzmanic
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 2231 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:35 am Post subject: |
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Below is the link to the only U.S. distributor of Permatrim. I spoke to the dealer directly about a month ago, I think his name was Andy Jr. He's very knowlegeable and verified that he is the lone distributor of Permatrim in the U.S. I'm sure they would have one that would fit a Yamaha but be sure to call.
http://www.shipyardisland.com/
Peter |
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gljjr
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 908 City/Region: Fall City
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1982
C-Dory Model: 27 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Migratory Dory
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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If you need more information on them here is there factory website. http://www.permatrimmarine.com/ _________________ Gary Johnson
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Sneaks
Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 2020 City/Region: San Diego (Encinitas)
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: C-Brat
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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If you decide on Yamaha, I have a new-in-the-box Permatrim for the 75 and 90 hp Yamaha models sitting in my garage. I went with Trim Master trim tabs instead. Just check on the current cost of a new one and PM me with an offer I can't refuse.
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jennykatz
Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Posts: 1679 City/Region: naples
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Little Treasurer
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:34 pm Post subject: permatrim |
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don you did not like the permatrims or did they get in the way of the trimtabs?? Im hoping to pick up boat in two weeks then repower with f90 so it might be some time in dec jim on /jennykatz/duck |
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Byrdman
Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 3329 City/Region: Cumberland River, Clarksville,
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:39 am Post subject: |
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jennykatz: Ya get my PM about the motor that is on the boat now? |
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Sneaks
Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 2020 City/Region: San Diego (Encinitas)
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: C-Brat
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:42 am Post subject: |
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Jennykatz:
The Permatrim is well made and from reports on here, it works well. My reason for choosing to pass up the Permatrim for the trim tabs were twofold and had nothing to do with whether I liked it or not and everything to do with preventing a costly ding in my garage:
I had precisely 26 ft. available for storage and the Permatrim adds to the overall length, especially with the motor up. Punching a hole in the garage stucco was inevitable if I went Permatrim.
Trim Master sells a 12 X 9 kit for the C-Dory for $300 if you ask for the C-Dory special. 12 X 12 is only $30 more. It's quality is easily the equal of Bennett. Our erstwhile Nerd got Brats the special some time back and they still honor it. (You can FROOGLE it for $275 + shipping elsewhere but the factory support is worth haggling for.) The tabs don't add to the overall length, so it was a safer alternative.
I think Da Nag has or had both the Permatrim and the Trim Master tabs but I find the tabs are sufficient. At least so far.... _________________ Mary & Don Anderson
Brat #483
"Jenny B" 2005 C-22/F75 sold, Oct. 2008
"C-Brat" 1993 C-16 angler/50 hp |
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jennykatz
Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Posts: 1679 City/Region: naples
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:09 am Post subject: motor byrdman |
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no i didnt get the pm how do you get that anyway plz tell me how thanks |
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rogerbum
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 5927 City/Region: Kenmore
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C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Meant to be
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Jenny,
To get the PM (private message) - look at the "C-Brats" menu bar on the top every page. On the bottom right of the bar, 4 icons over from the help icon, is the PM icon. It should indicate if you have PM's. Click on it to read and respond. If you have problems, the help icon contains many pieces of info that may help.
Best,
Roger on the SeaDNA _________________ Roger on Meant to be |
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oldgrowth
Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 2196 City/Region: Rochester
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:52 am Post subject: |
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I made a hydrofoil for my boat. I didn’t want to spend over $100 for a piece of bent aluminum, so I made one based on the permatrim that I saw in several albums. I didn’t have an actual permatrim to copy but the one I made makes a world of difference on how my boat handles. Savings was over $100 because I had some scrap aluminum lying around. Photos of it in my Boat Project album, last two photos _________________ Dave 
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Jazzmanic
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 2231 City/Region: Seattle
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:11 am Post subject: |
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Dave,
Great job! Looks just like the Permatrim we had on my Suzuki DF70. I really liked the way C-Dancer handled with the Permatrim.
We'll have to compare how she handles with trim tabs only with the new DF90.
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starcrafttom
Joined: 07 Nov 2003 Posts: 7932 City/Region: marysville
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:48 am Post subject: |
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Miss t How much for you to make me up one for my honda 90 "from scraps just laying around" you guys with tools and talent really bug us with neither. _________________ Thomas J Elliott
http://tomsfishinggear.blogspot.com/ |
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oldgrowth
Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 2196 City/Region: Rochester
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | How much for you to make me up one for my honda 90 "from scraps just laying around" |
When I made mine, I had photos of it from user’s photo albums with the permatrim on 50 hp Hondas and I had the 50 hp Honda engine. I printed the photos from every angel I could find, then scaled the permatrim and checked the dimensions against my engine, so I had an idea of size. After it was fabricated, I then made minor modifications to it, to insure a good fit for my engine. I would think the 90 hp should have a slightly larger permatrim than the 50. If I could see a photo of the permatrim for the 50 hp model next to the permatrim for the 90 hp model it could be done, or photos of it on a 90 hp Honda. I would also like to have a 90 hp Honda to be able to make any minor adjustments/cuts to the trim for a good fit. Or better yet if you had the dimensions for the permatrim for your engine, it would be a piece of cake. Not sure if I have anymore aluminum left but my brother is friends with a large machine shop in Olympia and can get it for close to scrap prices.
The short answer to your question is, without more information I would not be able to. If you can get me the information I have indicated above, I would do it for the cost of materials + $25 for my brother for his help. That would be installed, if you bring your boat to Olympia. Should be able to be done in one day, but if you left the boat, we have a warehouse about ¼ mile from Swantown Marina in Olympia. It also has a fenced and locked yard around the warehouse. If you want it shipped to you, add shipping cost and without a 90 hp engine to match it to, you may have to do some minor filing/grinding and sanding on it for a good fit.
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