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Salmon Fisher



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:59 pm    Post subject: RIB for CD 25 Reply with quote

I am wondering if anyone has ever used a RIB on a 25. As we start cruising further north where beaches are not as forgiving on traditional tube dinghy bottom, I think a RIB would be ideal.

I would use a Garhauer davit for launching and retrieving from the roof. I would also build a cradle for the RIB and might utilize some form of solid foam insulation for the base of the cradle no the gelcoat is not scratched.

Any thoughts from the experts out there would be welcome.

Thanks,
Patrick

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrick,
You are spot on that a flat bottom inflatable has issues, such as non planning and poor tracking. Many companies have tried to solve this with an inflatable tube on on the centerline to form a "sort'a" v-hull.
I have had many RIB boats and still have a 17' boat with a very deep-v with a fiberglass bottom (and has a 90 HP outboard to push it). Boats with tubes made of Hypalon are more durable and UV resistant than the alternative fabrics, but they weigh more.
If I was choosing a dingy to meet the needs they you are considering, I would take a good look at the ultra light aluminum hull RIB, made by AB.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although the newer RIB are lighter in weight--they still have challenges for the total weight. You can deflate the tubes, and some fold the transom in, to get the profile down. One way that RIB's are "cradled" is with SS tubings, which act as "bunks" under the hull itself. You can put the "pipe insulation foam" over the tubing to pad the bottom of the boat. The type of cradle depends on the amount of "V" or dead rise.

To get a bigger inflatable, you will probably want a longer tube on the Garhauer Davit, so you have a higher lift. You also want to have the heavier capacity davit (larger tube) and the longer arm. I have done this, but don't have any photos, and am in Calif. currently.

Also consider the aluminum bottom inflatable. Fiberglass will wear on the rocks and sharp sea food shells in AK. We had a 12.5 foot Avon RIB when we cruised AK in our Cal 46. We brought it aboard, with a roller (solid SS bar with trailer roller) across the entire transom. We used an electric winch and the boat rested on teak strips, screwed to the deck. This inflatable had a double hull (bottom and deck): Each season, we put a sacrificial strip of fiberglass mat down the length of the keel, where the RIB contacted the rocks/shells. We put this on with epoxy mixed with aluminum powder to give it more abrasive resistance, and faired this--then painted with a hard bottom paint.

We have also used fabric bottom inflatables in all of the inland passage as well as Ak. If you are careful, the fabric bottom inflatable will work fine up North--and you can glue extra strips of material on the places where there might be cuts or wear.

Because of the high tides, and sometimes difficult beaches, we rarely beached the inflatable as we did most other places. We would use boots going ashore, to avoid major contact with the rocks/shells. We would anchor the RIB or inflatable off the shore. We had a 200' "endless line. The anchor for the inflatable had about 6 feet of chain, and a pulley on the end of that. The line went thru the pulley. We would drop the anchor just about 100 feet off the beach, power or paddle the inflatable to the beach. A point on the line would be attached to the bow eye of the inflatable, so that the boat could be pulled off the beach. We also had a light stern line as a "safety". After we disembarked in shoal water, we pulled the boat off the beach, and attached the safety line and a couple loops of the anchor line to a branch, sand spike or deadman on the beach (being careful that would be above water at the highest tides.

An example of a boat suitable for a C Dory 25 would be the Achillies HB 275F. This is 8'10" long, 17" tubes, and weight 86#--no engine. The transom folds.

The 7'10" aluminum boat weighs 88# and the 8'10" weight is 98#.

In the past a Portland Porgy has been carried on the roof of a C Dory 25--I thought it was a bit awkward--but the owner was happy--perhaps not the easiest to get on the roof.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a set up that EQ Harbor Marine did for someone a number of years ago:

https://tinyurl.com/yckbbkym
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Robert H. Wilkinson



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You want a RHIB for a 25' cruiser - here it is - https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2011/rosborough-roughwater-9-11-rhib-3147152/?refSource=browse listing

Sorry I just couldn't help myself,,,, Mr. Green Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I notice that the rib has a hard dinghy. For the rocks?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrick - we had an Alaskan Series 7'10" inflatable dinghy that we bought in 2007. The "Grizzly Claw" bottom was everything it is advertised to be (Patty thinks it used to be called the "Bear Claw" bottom, and it might have been then). We dragged this puppy over sharp rocks, barnacles, oyster beds, and just about everything else, until we sold it just before starting the Great Loop in 2017. We had a 2 hp outboard, but I usually rowed it, since it rows extremely easily. The ONLY reason we sold it was as I got older, it just got to be difficult for me to lift over the bow rail. I think it weighed 52 lbs, which is not a lot, and was not difficult for me until just a couple of years ago. We bought a Sea Eagle inflatable kayak for the Loop weighing 32 lbs. But the Alaska Series with the Grizzly Claw bottom would do you just as well as a RIB as you go north and NOT require a davit to put on the roof. Seriously, give this a look.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the great input.

Last year I glued on an extra layer of PVC on the bottom of each tube on the West Marine RU dinghy and it worked well. I might go ahead and add another layer on top of that and get some rub strake material and add to the bottom to make it thicker like the Alaskan Series dinghy that Pat Anderson talked about.

Lots to think about as we plan to go North in the next couple of years.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might look at Keel Guard. That would certainly give you some thickness.

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