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Gene&Mary
Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 206 City/Region: Seattle/Center Island
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:38 am Post subject: Rust on truck |
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I just got my 2015 Ford F150 back from the shop, 25k service. They said the lug nuts on the rear tires were rusted so that it was difficult to get them off. It would have been a real bummer if I had a flat tire. They asked if I had a boat..........
They also said there was rust on the brake drums and the brake innards.
I always try to rinse the wheels and wheel wells but usually fresh water is not available where I launch at so its a while before I get to a place where it is available. I guess I'll buy one of those garden sprayers so I can rinse right away.
Any other thoughts or ideas?
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journey on
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 3598 City/Region: Valley Centre
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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I use an F-250 to haul Journey On. When I launch, I'm careful not to let the rear wheels touch the water; close but no dip. I've not noticed any rust of the rear axle, drums included. The trailer is a roller trailer, if that makes any difference. I do bury the side guides, though.
So, why do you let the truck's rear wheels hit the water?
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Gene&Mary
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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The slope of the ramp I use is shallow so the wheels need to go in the water so I can get the depth on the trailer to launch.
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thataway
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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You might add "Salt Away" to the water in your garden sprayer. Be sure it is a large sprayer and you have enough flow thru the nozzle to wash off all of the salt water. Hopefully you have disc brakes on the rear--they are much easier to wash clean of the salt water. You can modify drum brakes to allow washing the inside of the drum and pads. _________________ Bob Austin
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localboy
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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I bought a pump garden sprayer and filled it with Salt-A-Way. I keep it in the bed and spray off the trailer brakes & rear truck brakes/wheels after I dunk. I also use a small amount of anti-seize on the lug nuts. _________________ "We can go over there...behind the 'little one'....."
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hardee
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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I am really picky about the launch ramps I use and if they don't have a wash deck I don't go there. Yup, it does limit some places, but It makes a difference in how long my trailer will live. I also wash the trailer down after the launch as well as the haulout.
Another thing I did, (and I looked at you trailer pictures and you could do the same thing), I lowered my trailer bunks (yes, all 4 of them) 2.5 inches. It is on a Pacific Tandem, galvanized, and it makes a huge difference. I was having to back down to put the tires into the water - not the wheels though. Now, I usually don't have to even get the tires wet. That also makes the boat easier to get into when on the trailer, helps it tow better with a lower CG, and decreases towing windage.
Harvey
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Gene&Mary
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Good suggestion Harvey. I'm assuming you would also lower the winch assembly in front also? |
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colbysmith
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Won't stop the rust, but at least for keeping that and the corrosion from welding things together, I use never seize (Permatex Aluminum Anti-Seize) on both the lug nuts, and slime some on between the wheel and hub. Especially the center axle section that sticks out a bit into the wheel hub. (I had an earlier Ford that was notorious for sticking together there!) And while I rarely launch in salt water, I'm anal about making sure the trailers running gear (brakes & hubs), and rest of the trailer, is washed down with fresh water after it's spent any time in salt, rather it's dunked in the ocean, or towed along our midwest salted roads in the winter! Colby |
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thataway
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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While we are at it...truck (and trailer) lug nuts should be torqued to specs:
The GMC 1500 to 120 ft lbs, and 2500 to 140 ft lbs.
I carry a torque wrench, and an impact driver, as well as a breaker bar. Never use the torque wrench as a breaker bar to remove rusted lug nuts. Use an impact driver or breaker bar. I spin the lug nuts on, with the driver, but no tightening. Does the dealer or tire shop use a torque wrench? Some have torque limiting devices on their impact drivers, but I would guess most don't.
Anti-Seize, oil, grease are all applied--and there are many who say you should not use a lubricant when applying--in that it allows more pressure, than an un-lubricated thread, which can stretch the stud, or cause uneven tightening and vibrations....but most of us who get salt water on the wheels, do use small amounts of a Anti-seize. |
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Marco Flamingo
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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I launched small boats on our beach with my Toyota pickup. Best at high tide, but I still couldn't help but go in axle high. I could hear when I was in deep enough because the exhaust burbled. After about 6 years I had some brake squealing. $1,400 later I had new brakes. I now drive 4 miles to a better launch site.
I use Salt Away on the trailer, especially the disk brakes, but unless you dip the trailer into Salt Away, it's not going get everything. I often stop by a boat ramp on a lake and back the trailer in for a minute on the way home.
Mark |
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jbdba01
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:30 am Post subject: |
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Yup weed sprayer for me - I sprayer by trailer tires with fresh water every time.
$10-15 at harbor freight. Add some salt away if you want. |
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NewMoon
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Another thing I used to do which apparently helped: as soon as I get back home after a trip, I remove trailer wheels and truck rears, make sure wheels hubs and lugs are cleaned/de-salted, and re-install. With anti-sieze on the lugs every time I pull a wheel. _________________ Richard Cook
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breausaw
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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All I can say is I would never ever let any part of my truck touch saltwater. Unlike a saltwater boat trailer brake components vehicles are not meant for such harsh environments. In a few years your rear brakes will be trash. Any electrical components that gets submerged will fail rapidly.
It may be inconvenient but I would try a receiver hitch extension for lunching your boat.
Instead of using anti seize try Perfect Seal, I use it on my lug nuts and all outboard bolt threads, amazing stuff and inexpensive. _________________ Jay
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journey on
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with Jay/breausaw. I don't let any part of a truck I'm using to launch touch salt water. If the launch ramp is shallow and the truck wheels have to go into the water, I don't launch there. Trucks cost money, repairing them is more money that I'd rather not spend.
So, my suggestion is to find a new launch ramp. The Seattle area must be full of them. If you're on Center Island at least get an extension bar for the trailer.
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Ceez
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 1:47 am Post subject: |
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That was a problem on my vehicle too. There was rust on some truck parts because of the saltwater. The suggestion of a launch ramp can help. |
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