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NORO LIM



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:18 pm    Post subject: Large Boats Reply with quote

We were lucky enough to spend a week and a half on the Mediterranean Coast of France. As chance would have it, our trip coincided with the 2018 Monaco Yacht Show. We encountered mind-boggling displays of wealth. Lots of ideas for that "next boat" when your C-Dory starts feeling a little cramped.

Here are just three of the toys of the rich and famous we saw:

The "Freedom" in the harbor of Nice. A 230 foot boat built to sleep "up to" 12 guests (nothing worse than an overcrowded boat). You can charter this boat "from $581,000 per week." (Oh, "plus expenses," but I'm sure it burns hardly any fuel.)



The "Khalilah" near Monaco. Composite hull is 160 feet long. Color-coordinated dinghy. Will do 32knots.




The "Maltese Falcon" near Monaco. My favorite. (Has also been sighted locally in the San Juans Islands.) The hull is 290 feet long with three freestanding, rotating, 187 foot masts. Can be single handed.

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Joined: 30 Sep 2006
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City/Region: Lake Stevens via Honolulu
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kinda like #1. If you’re gonna live...live LARGE. Wink
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Foggy



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, big yachts exist. So do big egos. Do you believe this creates happiness
or contentment?

One of the signs you are living an illusion is you are fulfilled through having
'things'. Chances are owners of these mega yachts have plenty of other stuff
too.

I'll bet, for many, the bigger the 'thing' and more of the same equates to the
size of their personal void or lack which cannot be filled.

Aye.
Grandpa used to say, "The road to 'bigger, better, faster, more' leads nowhere."

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NORO LIM



Joined: 24 Apr 2008
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City/Region: Olympia
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Vessel Name: NORO LIM (sold 12/12/14)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Foggy wrote:
Sure, big yachts exist. So do big egos. Do you believe this creates happiness
or contentment?

One of the signs you are living an illusion is you are fulfilled through having
'things'. Chances are owners of these mega yachts have plenty of other stuff
too.

I'll bet, for many, the bigger the 'thing' and more of the same equates to the
size of their personal void or lack which cannot be filled.

Aye.
Grandpa used to say, "The road to 'bigger, better, faster, more' leads nowhere."



I stood in 500 year-old cathedrals, castles, and citadels on our trip. Some of them are (relative to their era, at least) even more over-the-top extravagant and expensive than any of these mega yachts. In each instance I found myself asking, "Who built this, and why?" Motives abound.

I find the interiors, in particular, of most of these yachts somewhere between laughable and disgusting. It's hard not to feel just a touch of outrage, too. It's the same way I feel when I see pictures of Louis XIV's "house." I also agree with Foggy about the emptiness that must drive some of this. I do feel a little sorry for anyone who seems to crave owning "things" to this extent. Everything else aside, as a simple matter of my aesthetics, excess is repulsive. (Isn't that an aesthetic we all share when it comes our boats? Or are we just hiding our envy? What would you buy if you had Paul Allen's money?Laughing )

Sometimes, the seemingly stupid or sinful ways the rich (or powerful) choose to spend their (or other people's) money advances knowledge in fields like engineering. The "Maltese Falcon," for instance, was built in part out of a desire to explore the practicality of returning to sail power for trans-oceanic cargo shipping. It is an impressive work of high-tech boat building.
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localboy



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least it's American owned and the owner is proud of his citizenship.

http://www.superyachtnews.com/owner/freedom_under_us_flag
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Hunkydory



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I imagine the world’s poor could look at the possessions of us on this site & say, much the same as Foggy did about the owners of these large boats. It’s about the wealth scale & where one is on it. Being content with what one can afford instead of envious or judgmental of the possessions of others is a quick way to personal happiness. Unless it’s slave or forced labor producing the chosen product, there are many lives enriched in the process.

If I could have afforded it without sacrificing other things desired even more, my cruises shared on this site would have been on a CD25 instead of a CD22. Making that choice hasn’t made us envious of those who own a CD25 or larger boat or less content with our CD22.

Jay

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localboy



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said, Jay. I don’t condemn others for the “stuff” they own. I say good for them. They obviously have done something right. Who is to know if the owners of these yachts have contributed some of their wealth to causes that benefit mankind...
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hardee



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My personal choices, even if I had Paul's disposable income, would include something with raked front windshield, which a few boats have, but none of the 3 shown. Personally, if those folks have it and want to spend it, it makes jobs for others, so good on them. I would hope that there is some similar amount that would go to providing for world hunger, water, and peace.

My C-Dory 22 does exactly what I want it to do: Stay right side up, keep my head and feet dry and bring me home when I want. That's not much for some but it is hard to beat.

Harvey
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:39 pm    Post subject: Mega Yachts Reply with quote

I just look at them and think....WOW !! Smile

I could float my boat in what it takes to paint their bottom. Crook
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Pat Anderson



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The gin tastes JUST AS GOOD on our 25 foot C-Dory Cruiser!
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colbysmith



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding really big boats, I just put another 15,000 miles on Midnight Flyer's boat trailer this past boating season. Not quite up to the 16,000 miles the previous season. And I'm loving it! The places I've taken the boat, the fellow boaters and others I've met! I remind myself of that every time I start to drool over a BIG boat! Wink And while I could afford the 25 or a Tomcat, I'm cheap and like the better efficiency of the 22, while still having a boat big enough to serve my wife and I well. Mr. Green So while I envy those bigger boats, I really envy what I already have! Colby
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robhwa



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Capn Jack expressed my financial feelings:

Quote:
could float my boat in what it takes to paint their bottom. Crook


Pat expressed another financial fact:

Quote:
The gin tastes JUST AS GOOD on our 25 foot C-Dory Cruiser


Maybe better because one can afford better gin if they don't spend everything on a larger boat. It is also nice to consider damage or loss of the boat something that won't bankrupt you.

There are two books that feature the versatility and capabilities of the CD-22.

I just finished reading recently published "Artic Solitaire" by Paul Sounders. One of the things Paul mentioned was how the locals in North Hudson Bay didn't seem to think much of his quest to photo the "Perfect Bear", but really liked his boat, a CD-22. The boat came through for Paul, and he often praised it over his four summers in Hudson Bay.

Another C-Dory adventure book, by the author of "Blue Highways", is "River Horse" by William Least Heat-Moon. How many boats have made a journey nearly across the USA from the Atlantic to the Pacific THROUGH the continent on rivers (streams) and lakes not mostly on a trailer?

Though some of you shudder at the idea, I regularly beach Problemadela, and have no qualms about picking up and dropping off passengers in shallow water.

I'll probably move to a larger boat, maybe a 25 or TomCat, sometime in the future for comfort after my wife retires, but after 3 years, the CD-22 will probably remain my idea of the best all-around boat for truly traveling nearly anywhere.
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dotnmarty



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend of mine saw a photo of our 16 footer and asked me, "What's it like to be wealthy". My response, "It's wonderful".
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NORO LIM



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dotnmarty wrote:
A friend of mine saw a photo of our 16 footer and asked me, "What's it like to be wealthy". My response, "It's wonderful".



Ain't THAT the truth, Marty!

I try to remind myself every day to reflect on how wealthy I am. Just consider the lives of all the humans who have ever walked this earth. Those of us lucky enough to be making that journey here and now enjoy material well-being beyond the reach, or even the imagination, of most of the rest of our fellow beings.

I owned a boat!

Bill
Formerly on NORO LIM
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nicely stated, Bill. I feel that way, too.
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